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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:31 am 
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Three standout #Mets arms in camp, per Luis Rojas: Matt Allan, Ryley Gilliam, and Sam McWilliams.

Listen it’s all good trying to sign all the relievers but the Mets are going to need these kids to contribute too, aka Drew Smith, Gilliam, etc...

Agree, tho I’m pretty low on Gilliam. But he’ll probably get a shot at some point this season.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pm 
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Mogriffjr wrote:
Three standout #Mets arms in camp, per Luis Rojas: Matt Allan, Ryley Gilliam, and Sam McWilliams.

Listen it’s all good trying to sign all the relievers but the Mets are going to need these kids to contribute too, aka Drew Smith, Gilliam, etc...

Agree, tho I’m pretty low on Gilliam. But he’ll probably get a shot at some point this season.


There's always opportunities that arise. Our OD bullpen last year was Diaz, Lugo, Betances, Familia, Wilson, Hunter Strickland, Drew Smith, Chasen Shreve, and Paul Sewald.

In addition to that list, we ended up using: Jared Hughes, Brad Brach, Robert Gsellman, Erasmo Ramirez, Corey Oswalt, Franklyn Kilome, Miguel Castro in the pen (not to mention starters like Peterson, Wacha, and Matz being shuffled down there too at times).

The point of having depth, especially pre-40 man ones like Gilliam, is that you set yourself up as well as possible to start, and when things inevitably go wrong, you can utilize your depth. If the plan is simply to start with 4 guys its pretty certain will be swapped out before very long (Familia, Betances, Castro, Barnes), you're already well into what should have been your "depth" not because they forced their way up, but because you HAD to dive into it. Thats not a plan for success.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:24 pm 
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Mogriffjr wrote:
Three standout #Mets arms in camp, per Luis Rojas: Matt Allan, Ryley Gilliam, and Sam McWilliams.

Listen it’s all good trying to sign all the relievers but the Mets are going to need these kids to contribute too, aka Drew Smith, Gilliam, etc...

Agree, tho I’m pretty low on Gilliam. But he’ll probably get a shot at some point this season.


There's always opportunities that arise. Our OD bullpen last year was Diaz, Lugo, Betances, Familia, Wilson, Hunter Strickland, Drew Smith, Chasen Shreve, and Paul Sewald.

In addition to that list, we ended up using: Jared Hughes, Brad Brach, Robert Gsellman, Erasmo Ramirez, Corey Oswalt, Franklyn Kilome, Miguel Castro in the pen (not to mention starters like Peterson, Wacha, and Matz being shuffled down there too at times).

The point of having depth, especially pre-40 man ones like Gilliam, is that you set yourself up as well as possible to start, and when things inevitably go wrong, you can utilize your depth. If the plan is simply to start with 4 guys its pretty certain will be swapped out before very long (Familia, Betances, Castro, Barnes), you're already well into what should have been your "depth" not because they forced their way up, but because you HAD to dive into it. Thats not a plan for success.


Yeah I’m hoping for the best with Betances and Familia, but I am not happy about the way they finished the offseason bullpen-wise. Seems we were in on Hand, in on Rosenthal, and just ended up going with Loup and a minor league deal to Hunter. Getting one more solid setup type would have been ideal.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:48 pm 
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The Mets problem isn't finding opportunities for good arms in the bullpen.

Their problem is that they shouldn't trust half of their bullpen.


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The Mets sold out their entire home Grapefruit League season (1,400 fans per game) in nine minutes.


That's kind of awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
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deGrom throwing 99 ALREADY...deGoat is insane.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:15 pm 
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The Mets problem isn't finding opportunities for good arms in the bullpen.

Their problem is that they shouldn't trust half of their bullpen.


I don't think their pen is as bad as all that and there are sufficient fall back options including arms like Lucchesi & Peterson who could see pen time. I think their pen will be in the top 15 maybe even top 10 when all is said and done. Not awful.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:40 pm 
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Metsfan980 wrote:
The Mets problem isn't finding opportunities for good arms in the bullpen.

Their problem is that they shouldn't trust half of their bullpen.


I don't think their pen is as bad as all that and there are sufficient fall back options including arms like Lucchesi & Peterson who could see pen time. I think their pen will be in the top 15 maybe even top 10 when all is said and done. Not awful.

The Mets pen finishing in the 10-15 range would be a huge win. I think it's incredibly optimistic to predict Top 10, but I sure hope you're right.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
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The Mets pen finishing in the 10-15 range would be a huge win. I think it's incredibly optimistic to predict Top 10, but I sure hope you're right.


You're right, top 10 might be pushing it, but top 15 wouldn't surprise me at all.

I think they had a good off-season though, especially for staying under the cap. The improvements they gave themselves in SS, Catcher, position player depth and starting pitching is huge.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:40 am 
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Mogriffjr wrote:
deGrom throwing 99 ALREADY...deGoat is insane.


This is cool and I know he said he started throwing 2 weeks earlier than normal...but my concern is he's going to go too fast too soon. It's a lonnnnng season. Easy does it, Jake.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
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deGrom throwing 99 ALREADY...deGoat is insane.


This is cool and I know he said he started throwing 2 weeks earlier than normal...but my concern is he's going to go too fast too soon. It's a lonnnnng season. Easy does it, Jake.


I get it but Jake seems to be one of the guys who knows his body. I'm not super concerned about that.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Spring Training Thread
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Jacob deGrom wakes up on January 1st and throws 98 miles per hour while feeding formula to abandoned baby goats. He good.


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