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 Post subject: Scott Kazmir
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:01 pm 
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No matter how happy we are over clinching the NL East, we should never forget our bitterness over the Kazmir trade. I try to remember this by putting his baseball card on top of the telly while the Mets are pouring Champaign on each other.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:10 pm 
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Are you making fun of me in some way? :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Kazmir
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:11 pm 
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Dr. Slappy Horowitz wrote:
No matter how happy we are over clinching the NL East, we should never forget our bitterness over the Kazmir trade. I try to remember this by putting his baseball card on top of the telly while the Mets are pouring Champaign on each other.

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No Kazmir trade and none of this happens...No Omar No Pedro etc etc...


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Kazmir
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:13 pm 
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ya gotta believe wrote:
No Kazmir trade and none of this happens...No Omar No Pedro etc etc...


That's a way to put a happy face on it.

JD was gone no matter what IMO after that year. When your best acquisition was Richard Hidalgo for Dave Weathers, you're not going to be long for a GM job.

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 Post subject: Re: Scott Kazmir
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:18 pm 
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Nutsacjac wrote:
ya gotta believe wrote:
No Kazmir trade and none of this happens...No Omar No Pedro etc etc...


That's a way to put a happy face on it.

JD was gone no matter what IMO after that year. When your best acquisition was Richard Hidalgo for Dave Weathers, you're not going to be long for a GM job.


their is no defense of the trade...but I do think that it was the fans/media outrage that was one of the catalysts in Fred's decision to just blow up the multi-headed working model ..His decision to gut the front office and let Omar and his team run things baseball wise (instead of Jeff, the scouts,etc) never gets enough praise in my opinion

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:19 pm 
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Kazmir is proving Peterson right... already mired in injuries.

Future reliever.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:22 pm 
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Monte wrote:
Kazmir is proving Peterson right... already mired in injuries.

Future reliever.


Peterson never said he was concerned about Kazmir's delivery, he said it was fine. That was a smear campaign released by the powers that be in the Met organization(hopefully that no longer have positions).

144.2 IP, 1.27 WHIP, .240 BAA, 3.24 ERA in the AL.

22 years old.

What a disastrous trade.

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He said he couldn't handle a starter's workload, his frame to small and his arm to frail. Durrrr... spent all of September on the shelf in his first full year.

Talent wasn't the question, durability was.


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Monte wrote:
He said he couldn't handle a starter's workload, his frame to small and his arm to frail. Durrrr... spent all of September on the shelf in his first full year.

Talent wasn't the question, durability was.


BS. Find me the article where Rick Peterson specifically was quoted to have said that. I guarantee you can't find it.

The only thing I know Peterson said was he claimed that Kazmir was four years away (in 2004). He needed two more years in the minors then two more years to make an impact in the ML.

In that aspect, he was correct.

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It's not a big deal we traded Kazmir, it's not the first time a young stud pitcher has been traded, it's what they got in return compared to what they could've gotten in return is what's mind boggling.


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