No way we're happy if he's throwing 86, but he's got 4 K's today in 2 innings so something is working.

4 k's for Johan.

I'd hold off going nuts over a report that he sat 86 in the first inning. If he sits 86 for the whole game, worry.

den Dekker AVG approaching Turner territory.

Wasn't just the velocity. He was reportedly was bouncing a lot of pitches as well. I'm not going nuts at all based on 1 inning. I just don't think IF he's 86-87 during the season he will be very effective. 4th starter? Maybe. TOR? Highly, highly doubtful.

He's been sitting 88-89 all spring, topping at 90, 91.

That still doesn't tell you what his velocity will look like going 6 innings every 5th day.

I'll take that sample size over a 1 inning sample size.

Sounds like the velocity is still down-

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Where is the sample size of Santana velocity pitching 5+ innings every 5th day? I think it's acceptable to be at least SOMEWHAT concerned with reduced velocity today. I would be concerned if Niese were throwing 3 mph slower today too.

Warthen warned he'd hit a dead-arm period. If this is it, so be it. I'd be more concerned if his velocity remains down over his next few starts.

Let's see where he's at for the rest of the game.