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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:39 am 
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Is there any chance Stroman could drop to the Mets?


Yes, I think he likely will. All the recent mocks (Goldstein, Law, and BA) have him available. Keith Law should have a new mock out sometime this morning.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:47 am 
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Per Toby:
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Note that Goldstein’s comments about looking for high school upside all but preclude the Mets going after Texas A&M’s Michael Wacha and Duke’s Marcus Stroman, two “safer” college pitchers.


This might be, if they see Stroman as a closer moreso than a SP.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:50 am 
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Pretty much everything leading up to this point had us looking at college arms and prep bats, save for this morning's juicy Giolito rumor and KG's other comments.

Maybe KG got misinformation, but I think most of the lead-up is usually too much tea-leave reading and all that while everybody's just doing the most exhaustive due diligence possible.

And just because last year they hid their intentions so well, I'm going to guess we'll either be picking a prep arm or a college bat.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:51 am 
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I can't really argue with that, but you also don't want to have a Lincecum incident where everyone passes on the next Cy Young because he's too short.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:20 pm 
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What do y'all think of this Heaney kid out of Oklahoma State? He's got eye popping stats..

1.60, 118.1 IP, 74 H, 22 BB, 140 K

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Is the lack of attention paid to him based on the conference he plays in? Or is he getting more attention than I'm assuming.

On edit: I just watched some YouTube videos of him. He's all upper body. He doesn't bend at the waist. Red flag.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:34 pm 
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What do y'all think of this Heaney kid out of Oklahoma State? He's got eye popping stats..

1.60, 118.1 IP, 74 H, 22 BB, 140 K

:shock:

Is the lack of attention paid to him based on the conference he plays in? Or is he getting more attention than I'm assuming.

On edit: I just watched some YouTube videos of him. He's all upper body. He doesn't bend at the waist. Red flag.



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Keith Law says the Mets are no longer in on Giolito:(

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I don't believe anything that I'm hearing. What time does the draft start?

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
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Baseball draft is a total crapshoot

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:07 pm 
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Baseball draft is a total crapshoot



Yet the 2 best offensive players the team has ever drafted came in the first round

Strawberry and Wright (supplemental #1) and their top 2 prospects overall were high 1st round picks (Harvey and Wheeler).

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siddfinch1 wrote:
Baseball draft is a total crapshoot



Yet the 2 best offensive players the team has ever drafted came in the first round

Strawberry and Wright (supplemental #1) and their top 2 prospects overall were high 1st round picks (Harvey and Wheeler).


It's a crap shoot when teams pick poorly, but these days there's really no reason for it to be. Matt Bush, anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:25 pm 
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Dog wrote:
What do y'all think of this Heaney kid out of Oklahoma State? He's got eye popping stats..

1.60, 118.1 IP, 74 H, 22 BB, 140 K

:shock:

Is the lack of attention paid to him based on the conference he plays in? Or is he getting more attention than I'm assuming.

On edit: I just watched some YouTube videos of him. He's all upper body. He doesn't bend at the waist. Red flag.


The mechanical concerns scare me only a bit. He's more a mid-rotation upside guy, but relatively safe pick as the full repertoire, command and pitchability are all there now. And I don't mind the low effort delivery so much, but I think he opens up early and the arm comes a bit late, where he's probably putting too much stress on the shoulder and elbow. I don't think his mechanics are too bad though. If you watch Tom Glavine, he was also pretty upright, with a seeming low effort delivery, and he went 20 years before he had any arm issues. But Glavine's timing was better, he still got the ball up above the shoulder prior to the foot landing.

So I think Heaney's mechanics may need to be tweaked slightly, but he's a guy who could have not only similar mechanics to Glavine, but a similar level of command and feel. If you think that change up can be not only average to above average, but possibly a 60 grade pitch or better, he could be a steal. He may not need to throw more than low 90s to be a very good pitcher.


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