Also, it won't happen, but like last time the rumors popped up, I'd be all over Justin Upton if the DBacks really want to move him.

It's kind of sad; Amazin' Avenue has a poll on their site asking if fans would trade Harvey, Duda, and someone else to the DBacks for Justin Upton, and 60% of the vote is 'No'. I'd do that deal in a hearbeat and it's not even close.

The only possible explanation is that 60% of the usernames on Amazin' Avenue are A Nitelight, B Nitelight, C Nitelight, etc.

That would be an absolute steal.

That package would be a steal. The D-Backs will get much more than that for Upton if he's traded.

As far as Jason Bay goes, I agree with you again nmig. As much as everyone hates Jason Bay, he hits lefties well and still has some pop. For a team that struggles so mightily against left-handers, that has value.

Or they're extremely shortsighted and looked at his numbers this year and determined he was bad (as many posters here are doing with Ramon Hernandez).

I wouldn't trade a top arm for a bat. So I am sure that is why you see 60% of the fans saying they wouldn't do it.

I really don't understand the logic in this. The Mets have a lot of arms, a strong rotation, a lack of bats in the minors, and an absolute dearth of right-handed hitting. Are you saying you would never trade an arm for a bat, under any circumstances?

Their rotation is strong as long as Santana's shoulder holds on, and Dickey stays superhuman. Harvey is close to being ready and has upside #2 starter potential. With him and Wheeler there is a chance that they are mainstays of the staff for years to come. And yes while I understand the Mets have RH hitting hole, there is still no way I include him in a deal for a bat. You can eventually "buy" the bat.

When you have an excess of something, you don't trade off the top. You trade off the bottom.

Duda + Harvey for Upton makes a ton of sense for NY. Of course, the dealbreaker for me could be if they ask for a Fulmer or Marte type on top of that...but on the surface, you HAVE to consider Duda/Harvey for Upton.

Regarding Duda...he's a defensive liability in our big outfield. While he has tremendous pop, he's a lefty in our lefty-laden lineup.

Regarding Harvey...you have to give to get. Especially because Upton is controlled through 2015. Again, like it's been mentioned, we have a strong rotation, we have Wheeler ready, possibly Mejia and Familia on the way...it's wise to trade from a position of strength.

It would be a tough pill to swallow if we had to throw in a Fulmer in as well.

Upton makes a ton of sense in terms of addressing the Mets lack of athleticism and right handed hitting.

yea but Timo couldnt run the bases well when we needed it the most

Starting pitching is more precious than a right hand hitter, IMO.

If you're talking about middling players, sure, but Upton is the same age as Kirk, has been very good in the past, and addresses a need in the respect that he bats from the right side. You think Familia or Mazzoni is going to be central to a deal for Upton? That's the kind of perspective that we laugh at when it comes from other teams.




You already have two young, solid starters on the staff in the form of Niese and Gee. Dickey and Santana are there for now, Wheeler is coming fast, the Savannah arms are coming along quickly, so far. At the moment, we actually have more arms for 2014 than we have space for, assuming Dickey is re-signed. I really don't see the issue with trading one of them for a bat that is solid at worst, elite at best, and under control for a long time.