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 Post subject: Mets interested in Broxton?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Per Rubin:

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/51723/source-mets-looking-at-broxton

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 Post subject: Re: Mets looking at Broxton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:09 pm 
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Can we make a thread for all Met trade rumors since i'm sure they'll be many of them in the coming days and weeks?

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 Post subject: Re: Mets looking at Broxton
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm 
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I love Broxton. But i don't love what it will cost us


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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:49 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:


Just did...

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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:51 pm 
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I actually prefer individual threads.


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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
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R Nitelight wrote:
I actually prefer individual threads.


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We could do it either way...let the voices be heard...? Democracy!

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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:54 pm 
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R Nitelight wrote:
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We could do it either way...let the voices be heard...? Democracy!


It's just when this is 34 pages long I don't want to have to go back to page 6 to find a reference to a specific player.


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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
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See the poll on the board. I'll send this back to the original until we vote...

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 Post subject: Re: Trade Rumors: Deadline 2012
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I'm with Nitey actually. What else is there other than the minors, and igt's? If the Mets are tied to a player what's the big deal haven't it's own thread?

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 Post subject: Re: Mets interested in Broxton?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:12 am 
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The peripherals really don't seem to like Broxton at all. He seems to be getting very few swings and misses this year, and succeeding by doing unusually well with leaving men on base. These numbers really aren't that good for a pen arm:

year xFIP SIERA
2010 3.20 2.99
2011 4.67 4.75
2012 4.12 3.94

I should mention 2011 is a very small sample, only 12.7 IP. But there's no evidence in this year's peripherals either that he's anywhere near to being back to the pitcher he was in 2007-2009. It looks like he's not at all as good as he was even in 2010, but that he was unlucky that year, and has been very lucky so far this year. Especially of concern is his rate of swinging strikes, down to 5.8% this year. That's about what we saw from Mike Pelfrey throughout his career as a SP, or about what we got from Dale Thayer out of the pen last season.

Not that we couldn't use Dale Thayer right now, I just think people will probably be expecting a little more from Broxton, and may be disappointed. I don't mind the move if the price is right, but this strikes me as a move you make when you know this is really a .500 team, but acquiring the "name" guy at the deadline will help keep hope alive a bit longer, and sell a few more tickets in August, before you shift to giving up on 2012 and calling up more of the youngsters and getting them ready for 2013.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets interested in Broxton?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:07 am 
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This isn't the old Jon Broxton. He's essentially Jon Rauch with worse control now. Doesn't miss any bats anymore. That's really not what we need.

Would be a pretty terrible get and perhaps more damning, would show a scary lack of learning curve as far as who to target when revamping a pen.


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