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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:43 pm 
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First draft:
1 - Peterson
2 - Vientos
3 - Gimenez
4 - Lindsay
5 - Alonso
6 - Puck
7 - Flexen
8 - Humphreys
9 - Dunn
10 - Oswalt
11- Evans
12- McNeil
13- Rhame
14-Bashlor
15-Mazeika
16-Guillorme
17-Nido
18-Paez
19- Uceta
20- Thompson
21- Brody
22- James
23- Uriarte
24- Crismatt
25- Conlon
26- Bautista
27- Boyd
28- Guerrero
29- Granadillo
30- Urena
31- Moreno


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:49 pm 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
First draft:
1 - Peterson
2 - Vientos
3 - Gimenez
4 - Lindsay
5 - Alonso
6 - Puck
7 - Flexen
8 - Humphreys
9 - Dunn
10 - Oswalt
11- Evans
12- McNeil
13- Rhame
14-Bashlor
15-Mazeika
16-Guillorme
17-Nido
18-Paez
19- Uceta
20- Thompson
21- Brody
22- James
23- Uriarte
24- Crismatt
25- Conlon
26- Bautista
27- Boyd
28- Guerrero
29- Granadillo
30- Urena
31- Moreno



Always a great sign when #1 hasn't pitched (really) and #6 and #8 won't pitch in 2018 :lol: (Not a knock on your list just oof) and that's the the "hope" that Dunn's shoulder issue is minor but knowing the Mets...

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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
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Chris Flexen at number 7 - and it not being necessarily out of place - is all you need to know about this farm system.

IF Flexen gets to 50 innings, which he should (my arbitrary cut-off), he's going to enter some rarified air in the history of the game if his current stats keep up. His current 7.30 FIP would tie for the 7th worst season of 50+ innings IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL. There are 24,267 such individual seasons of 50+ innings in that data set.

7.71 is the record. Joe Magrane for the 1994 Angels. No, in case you're wondering, Joe Magrane didn't rebound to have a great 1995.


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:02 pm 
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Metro2007 wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
First draft:
1 - Peterson
2 - Vientos
3 - Gimenez
4 - Lindsay
5 - Alonso
6 - Puck
7 - Flexen
8 - Humphreys
9 - Dunn
10 - Oswalt
11- Evans
12- McNeil
13- Rhame
14-Bashlor
15-Mazeika
16-Guillorme
17-Nido
18-Paez
19- Uceta
20- Thompson
21- Brody
22- James
23- Uriarte
24- Crismatt
25- Conlon
26- Bautista
27- Boyd
28- Guerrero
29- Granadillo
30- Urena
31- Moreno



Always a great sign when #1 hasn't pitched (really) and #6 and #8 won't pitch in 2018 :lol: (Not a knock on your list just oof) and that's the the "hope" that Dunn's shoulder issue is minor but knowing the Mets...

But Kay and Prevost will be back!


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:23 pm 
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Also #11 appears headed for milb FA.


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:10 am 
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Somebody said that Paez looked terrible. (I think Metro posted that).

I think you're too high on Oswalt, and low on Nido. I'd probably put Gimenez at #1 until I hear a reason not to. Haven't done my list yet.

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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:51 am 
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LTKfRGM wrote:
Somebody said that Paez looked terrible. (I think Metro posted that).

I think you're too high on Oswalt, and low on Nido. I'd probably put Gimenez at #1 until I hear a reason not to. Haven't done my list yet.


Guy I spoke to gave Paez a "2" grade "awful even when he was hitting". He loves Gimenez and Vientos, not at all an Oswalt believer, didn't mention Nido either way (didn't come up), loves Villines (said he'd "easily" have him top 15-20 in the system... that high)

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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:51 am 
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He said Villines is at "least" as good as any reliever in the system and "maybe my favorite"

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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:15 am 
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Jarrett Seidler‏ @jaseidler 14h14 hours ago
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Ten pitches of New and Improved Tyler Bashlor was enough to convince me he's a MLB impact reliever

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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:42 am 
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My stab at a Top 30

1. Andres Gimenez
2. David Peterson
3. Peter Alonso
4. Mark Vientos
5. Justin Dunn
6. Thomas Szapucki
7. Desmond Lindsay
8. Luis Guillorme
9. Chris Flexen
10. Ronny Mauricio
11. Tomas Nido
12. Corey Oswalt
13. Marcos Molina
14. Anthony Kay
15. Jordan Humphreys
16. Patrick Mazeika
17. David Thompson
18. Tyler Bashlor
19. Jacob Rhame
20. Jeff McNeil
21. Nabil Crismatt
22. Jamie Callahan
23. Jhoan Urena
24. Stephen Villines
25. Stephen Nogosek
26. Kevin Kaczmarski
27. Drew Smith
28. PJ Conlon
29. Gerson Bautista
30. Jayce Boyd


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:48 am 
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Metro2007 wrote:
Jarrett Seidler‏ @jaseidler 14h14 hours ago
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Ten pitches of New and Improved Tyler Bashlor was enough to convince me he's a MLB impact reliever


Something seems to have flipped regarding Bashlor and his command. Late in the season in AA, even when he was missing, he was missing close.

Hopefully it's legit because, if it is, I think he's our most interesting bullpen prospect since Familia


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 Post subject: Re: The OFFICIAL pre-2017 season NYFS Top 50 Prospects
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:54 am 
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LTKfRGM wrote:
I think you're too high on Oswalt


I think 10-15 is the right range for Oswalt. He doesn't have the upside of the pitchers higher on the list but dominating AA has to count for something. He had a great game against that Trenton lineup that none of the other AA guys could hold their own against.

To me he's Flexen with fringe-ier secondaries, more ground ball potential on his FB, and better command. It's not a sexy package but it's a package that could be a solid innings-eater if all goes right.


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