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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:13 am 
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Despite the early hohum results, I'm generally less worried about Domo's ability to hit on this level than Rosario's.

wuuuuut? :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:19 am 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
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Despite the early hohum results, I'm generally less worried about Domo's ability to hit on this level than Rosario's.

wuuuuut? :shock:


We can get into the semantics of whether Domo has value at 1B, which is a perfectly reasonable concern. What I'm saying is (all things equal) I think Domo has a better understanding of the zone and pitch recognition than Rosario. This is really not a controversial statement.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:22 am 
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Ralf wrote:
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Despite the early hohum results, I'm generally less worried about Domo's ability to hit on this level than Rosario's. Domo at least shows a decent eye for the zone. While he's not getting much power behind most of his swings, he is making contact. Rosario definitely has the quicker bat but his zone is all over the place right now.


Was this before he took Chapman deep or after?


I'm glad he showed he can hit a weak, hanging slider. Thats kind of bare minimum of what you'd expect from major leaguers, no?


Some guys pop them up too. He still took your hero deep. No matter how you slice it it's still impressive.


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:24 am 
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Ralf wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
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Despite the early hohum results, I'm generally less worried about Domo's ability to hit on this level than Rosario's.

wuuuuut? :shock:


We can get into the semantics of whether Domo has value at 1B, which is a perfectly reasonable concern. What I'm saying is (all things equal) I think Domo has a better understanding of the zone and pitch recognition than Rosario. This is really not a controversial statement.

People looking at rates and trends at fewer than 50 PAs doesn't make sense to me. There is nothing in AmRo's past (or projection) to suggest he'll hit any less than Dom Smith, regardless of place on the defensive spectrum.


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:05 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
Ralf wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:

Was this before he took Chapman deep or after?


I'm glad he showed he can hit a weak, hanging slider. Thats kind of bare minimum of what you'd expect from major leaguers, no?


Some guys pop them up too. He still took your hero deep. No matter how you slice it it's still impressive.


Right. A pitcher with the best fastball in baseball and a slider in high 80s-low 90s, which he deployed successfully all postseason. He's been struggling and hung one last night. What Rosario did is impressive.


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:14 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
Ralf wrote:
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Was this before he took Chapman deep or after?


I'm glad he showed he can hit a weak, hanging slider. Thats kind of bare minimum of what you'd expect from major leaguers, no?


Some guys pop them up too. He still took your hero deep. No matter how you slice it it's still impressive.


My hero. Lol.

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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:38 pm 
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Hilltop wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:
Ralf wrote:
I'm glad he showed he can hit a weak, hanging slider. Thats kind of bare minimum of what you'd expect from major leaguers, no?


Some guys pop them up too. He still took your hero deep. No matter how you slice it it's still impressive.


Right. A pitcher with the best fastball in baseball and a slider in high 80s-low 90s, which he deployed successfully all postseason. He's been struggling and hung one last night. What Rosario did is impressive.


O come on. It was an 85 MPH hanging slider that he barely got over the fence in short RCF. What was the final distance? 370'? It would have been an out in almost every other stadium around the league.

What Devers did to a Chapman FB was "impressive."

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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:43 pm 
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NOT COMPARING DOM TO LONEY BUT.... would a single person on here be okay with that outcome? Would anyone be happy with James Loney "in his prime" as our 1b for the next 6-7 years? I'm not sure where this "Loney was good" narrative came from. He was beyond mediocre.


Whoever said he was 'good'? Good to me implies upper echelon at his position. I said decent, his 162-game averages were .284-12-75 and that's with the last few years of his career where he lost what little pop he had. And Loney had plus defense and lasted a decade, that's a decent ML career. I'm not saying I'd be happy if that's all Dom ever was - but when you don't run and have 10-15 HR power max there's a limited range of outcomes here.


The jury is out as to whether Dom has 10-15 home run power.... He is built like a brick wall (albeit with too much excess mortar at this time). There may be double that home run potential in his prime.

I read a couple of pages here and I have to say, many of you are being judgemental without a lot of evidence upon which to judge. A while back, I, too, had my doubts about Dom. However, he has put together two nice seasons in the upper minors and, very importantly, has shown POSITIVE PROGRESSION. What more can you all ask for? Yes, he is obese; however, I am CERTAIN he will shed 20 or more pounds this winter because he knows that his largest impediment (no pun intended) right now is his weight.

As opposed to others, I like what i have seen so far. Dom Smith is young, he is a work in progress and I humbly believe he has a very good chance to be FAR BETTER than James Loney....


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:49 pm 
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Just going off the minor league trackman (exit velocities, to be specific), Dom does have plus raw power.


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
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Ralf wrote:

O come on. It was an 85 MPH hanging slider that he barely got over the fence in short RCF. What was the final distance? 370'? It would have been an out in almost every other stadium around the league.

What Devers did to a Chapman FB was "impressive."


A 2 run homer off of the best paid closer in the game for a rookie in his 1st Subway Series is impressive.


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:56 pm 
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Metro2007 wrote:
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How 'bout just letting him get comfortable this year, and hoping he turns his game up a notch next year?

If he's James Loney in 8 years we'll replace him.


8)



You'd wait 8 years to replace James Loney? I find that hard to believe. I'm guessing by the end of next season people would be asking for Alonso or an upgrade if he didn't show himself to be better than a "James Loney 2.0".



Don't need to wait eight years. Dom already has someone creditable on his back at Port St Lucie......(who you mentioned).


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 Post subject: Re: The Dom Smith Era is Over
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:02 pm 
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Chapman has given up 21 homers in 8 seasons. What Rosario did was impressive off Chapman end of story.

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