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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:48 pm 
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Nice job Terry.

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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:07 pm 
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If it was a non-structural injury that wouldn't get worse, I don't mind them pitching him, but they should have shut him down around the trade deadline when the team started to tank.

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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:09 pm 
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Well really they should have shut him down when it was obvious he was getting lit like a pinball machine and him pitching wasn't helping anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 pm 
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AllWrightNow wrote:
Well really they should have shut him down when it was obvious he was getting lit like a pinball machine and him pitching wasn't helping anything.



That too.

Honestly, I know they were short on pitchers, but this is a "what the hek were they thinking" situation, unless Matz told them he wanted to pitch, in which case . . . maybe I can give them a pass.

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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Part of this has to be on the pitcher tho. I don't see the Mets pressuring Matz to pitch thru pain. If they thought it was anything more than ordinary soreness, no way they take the risk of him doing more damage by pitching him.

This is pretty obviously a pitcher saying "ah, it's no big deal" and trying to be a hero.


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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:40 pm 
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Matz has been heavily criticized for not being able to pitch through discomfort and shutting it down for any and all aches and pains. This is what can happen when that happens. Guy tries to pitch through pain and gets shelled.


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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
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I think we have been strongly reminded of the fickleness of trying to develop a historically dominant rotation. Finding, developing, and signing longterm, a guy like Syndergaard has to be done occasionally if you ever want that true ace. If you are lucky enough to find a similar guy in deGrom to serve as his backup, AWESOME. But, overall, just keep the pipeline of arms going, get what you can out of them, and learn to be real good at selling high.


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 Post subject: Re: Matz to the DL "not injured", Milone to rotation
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:41 pm 
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I think Sluger called this a few days ago.

I think a lot of people called this in April.

Can't wait until they finally leak Gsellman's injury publicly.


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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
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HeyNowHK wrote:
Part of this has to be on the pitcher tho. I don't see the Mets pressuring Matz to pitch thru pain. If they thought it was anything more than ordinary soreness, no way they take the risk of him doing more damage by pitching him.

This is pretty obviously a pitcher saying "ah, it's no big deal" and trying to be a hero.


I don't think thats it at all. I think both Matz and the team have the same mutually beneficial goals here. At some point, you have to pitch. If the pitcher wants to get paid, he has to go out and do it at some point. Otherwise he never gets his first payday, and the team likewise has to let him go and get nothing for a guy with so much potential.


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 Post subject: Re: Matz to the DL "not injured", Milone to rotation
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ilikeike29 wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
I think Sluger called this a few days ago.

I think a lot of people called this in April.

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Huh? ...that Milone would probably take Matz's next turn?


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 Post subject: Re: Matz to the DL "not injured", Milone to rotation
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ilikeike29 wrote:
Can't wait until they finally leak Gsellman's injury publicly.


What's his injury?


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 Post subject: Re: Update: Matz pitched through pain all season, may need s
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:07 pm 
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So its the same injury as deGrom as last year


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