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 Post subject: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:36 am 
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“Mike is not going anywhere,” general manager Sandy Alderson told The Post on Wednesday before the Mets faced the Cubs at Wrigley Field. “Mike is one of our most important staff and resources.”


http://nypost.com/2017/09/14/mets-sticking-with-strength-coach-despite-slew-of-injuries/

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:37 am 
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Can't say this was exactly surprising though, considering their business relationship as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:38 am 
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Typical Mets.

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:50 am 
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Sandy needs to go if he really thinks this guy has been an asset. Of course the Sandy backers will blame Jeff, the always convenient scapegoat.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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In fairness, people have made lots of judgments on this guy having no evidence of any causal relationship to the teams injury situations. I'd be much more dubious of the way the team handles injuries, diagnoses, treatment, and rehab than the way they go about off season conditioning.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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In fairness, people have made lots of judgments on this guy having no evidence of any causal relationship to the teams injury situations. I'd be much more dubious of the way the team handles injuries, diagnoses, treatment, and rehab than the way they go about off season conditioning.



Said to be a "controversial figure" in the S+C community. Even in the "it's been so bad lets try something else" realm this looks silly. Ignoring fully his business relationship via Michigan (Fred) and the fact the Mets/Barwis have players PAY to train with him in the off-season....

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:14 am 
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Metro2007 wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
In fairness, people have made lots of judgments on this guy having no evidence of any causal relationship to the teams injury situations. I'd be much more dubious of the way the team handles injuries, diagnoses, treatment, and rehab than the way they go about off season conditioning.


Ignoring fully his business relationship via Michigan (Fred) and the fact the Mets/Barwis have players PAY to train with him in the off-season....


The fact that there is a financial interest as well here for ownership is whats troubling. Players from other sports also train there. No way they stop that.

I agree somewhat with HNHK. "I'd be much more dubious of the way the team handles injuries, diagnoses, treatment, and rehab than the way they go about off season conditioning." To me, Ray Ramirez has to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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Not about this specifically bc I don't have enough knowledge to weigh in about it, but I would say that this "seems" like it's handled just like other things... which is to say that it seems typical of Sandy not to waver from one of his convictions (process) regardless of results... what is said about insanity? doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...

Sandy will apparently double down on the things he believes in regardless of the results on the ground. I think this is one of his (if not the biggest) faults. I'd prefer to see someone in authority have the humility to adjust when things don't go as expected/hoped. Instead, we see things like "process" put up on a mantle as if that cannot be questioned and results are just random.

I think it's time to begin questioning some of the exalted processes.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:25 pm 
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As expected. They're not going to fire a guy that they've invested money into.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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Barwis does not have to be listened to. Cespedes and Thor have both made comments that their workout programs were ill-advised.

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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What is his business relationship with the Wilpons?


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:15 pm 
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A little background

Barwis and Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon met in 2008 at the University of Michigan, and they kept in touch and began looking for ways to collaborate. The initial Michigan program proved successful enough -- Flores established himself as a shortstop candidate, Duda hit 30 home runs, Lagares won a National League Gold Glove Award -- that the Mets opened an unused portion of their Port St. Lucie complex and rented it to Barwis.
Weight machines now line one wall, with a plot of cheery green artificial turf in the center. Around it sit various torture instruments -- hurdles, medicine balls, resistance bands, box jumps and so forth. Near the entrance are shelves lined with Barwis' branded merchandise, including workout gear and dietary supplements.
Barwis' influence leaks into the rest of the Mets' facility, where trainers zip around on golf carts, toting water bottles full of bright-pink Barwis protein shakes. In addition to authoring workouts for roughly 30 Mets this offseason, Barwis wrote up nutrition programs as well. David Wright now eats a salad every day for lunch. Flores loads up on some variation of the same thing: breakfast is oatmeal, eggs, brown bread and yogurt; lunch is chicken and brown rice; that's followed by more chicken and sweet potatoes for dinner.
"You have to make the sacrifice," Flores said. "It's not only just hard work, hard work, hard work at the gym. I really realize now that being a successful baseball player is not easy."
Not all Mets players have bought into the system. Though Zack Wheeler reported to Port St. Lucie early, for example, he did not want to pay Barwis thousands of dollars when he could work out at the Mets' regular facility for free. (Union chief Tony Clark said Sunday that he has no problem with the facility's setup.)
Veterans such as Michael Cuddyer and Curtis Granderson, accustomed to their own programs, largely stayed away. The Mets did subsidize the cost of Barwis' camp, with some Minor Leaguers paying as little as $2,000, but the cost varied based on the length of the program. The club subsidy was smaller for big leaguers, meaning they paid more for the same program. And while the Mets encouraged their players to attend, no one was forced to take part. The players didn't have to be forced into attending. For most, the pull of peer pressure was enough.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/111867500 ... vate-mets/

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