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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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A little background

Barwis and Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon met in 2008 at the University of Michigan, and they kept in touch and began looking for ways to collaborate. The initial Michigan program proved successful enough -- Flores established himself as a shortstop candidate, Duda hit 30 home runs, Lagares won a National League Gold Glove Award -- that the Mets opened an unused portion of their Port St. Lucie complex and rented it to Barwis.
Weight machines now line one wall, with a plot of cheery green artificial turf in the center. Around it sit various torture instruments -- hurdles, medicine balls, resistance bands, box jumps and so forth. Near the entrance are shelves lined with Barwis' branded merchandise, including workout gear and dietary supplements.
Barwis' influence leaks into the rest of the Mets' facility, where trainers zip around on golf carts, toting water bottles full of bright-pink Barwis protein shakes. In addition to authoring workouts for roughly 30 Mets this offseason, Barwis wrote up nutrition programs as well. David Wright now eats a salad every day for lunch. Flores loads up on some variation of the same thing: breakfast is oatmeal, eggs, brown bread and yogurt; lunch is chicken and brown rice; that's followed by more chicken and sweet potatoes for dinner.
"You have to make the sacrifice," Flores said. "It's not only just hard work, hard work, hard work at the gym. I really realize now that being a successful baseball player is not easy."
Not all Mets players have bought into the system. Though Zack Wheeler reported to Port St. Lucie early, for example, he did not want to pay Barwis thousands of dollars when he could work out at the Mets' regular facility for free. (Union chief Tony Clark said Sunday that he has no problem with the facility's setup.)
Veterans such as Michael Cuddyer and Curtis Granderson, accustomed to their own programs, largely stayed away. The Mets did subsidize the cost of Barwis' camp, with some Minor Leaguers paying as little as $2,000, but the cost varied based on the length of the program. The club subsidy was smaller for big leaguers, meaning they paid more for the same program. And while the Mets encouraged their players to attend, no one was forced to take part. The players didn't have to be forced into attending. For most, the pull of peer pressure was enough.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/111867500 ... vate-mets/


It's actually rather surprising the Union didn't object more. Also, this reminds me of the Football Giants under Coughlin - talented team could never stay healthy. Clearly a change is needed, even if you believe his impact is negligible, the entire training and conditioning staff should be replaced.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:59 am 
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It was actually interesting to see they are saying Barwis wasn't the one behind Ces' massive weight lifting. The Noah stuff has been reported a bunch of times already -even before Noah got hurt (though people tend to ignore it) but that's the first I've seen on Ces. Still wouldn't mind them making a change though.

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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[b]It was actually interesting to see they are saying Barwis wasn't the one behind Ces' massive weight lifting.[/b] The Noah stuff has been reported a bunch of times already (though people tend to ignore it) but that's the first I've seen on Ces. Still wouldn't mind them making a change though.



Barwis has an article about his off-season work with Cespedes up on his own website where he's quoted on the off-season workouts and meal plan the 2 of them had so I'm not really sure where that is coming from?

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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A baseball season is long and Cespedes, who went 1-for-4 with a strikeout Wednesday night, has made it longer because of his constant battles with hamstring and quad injuries. Cespedes opted to bulk up this past offseason working with the Mets senior advisor for strength and conditioning Mike Barwis with the blessing of upper management. Bad decision.-Kernan

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:21 am 
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Metro2007 wrote:
MetGirl5 wrote:
[b]It was actually interesting to see they are saying Barwis wasn't the one behind Ces' massive weight lifting.[/b] The Noah stuff has been reported a bunch of times already (though people tend to ignore it) but that's the first I've seen on Ces. Still wouldn't mind them making a change though.



Barwis has an article about his off-season work with Cespedes up on his own website where he's quoted on the off-season workouts and meal plan the 2 of them had so I'm not really sure where that is coming from?

Sandy's quotes in the article in the original post

And the GM took issue with the notion Barwis was too cavalier in his handling of Cespedes last offseason, highlighted by the video and an ESPN segment with the bear squats.

“Cespedes didn’t do any of that kind of exercise with any of his work with Barwis,” Alderson said. “It was filmed, I think, because somebody wanted to demonstrate how strong he might be and it has left a completely erroneous impression.

“It wasn’t part of his training and, in fact, Mike Barwis is probably key to keeping Cespedes on the field going forward. The guy that Cespedes most trusts is Barwis.”

An organizational source said it was Cespedes who wanted to perform the heavy lift for the video and TV segment, even though Barwis was against it.


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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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That's pretty bizarre given Barwis's personal site has an article stating the exact opposite with quotes from Barwis...

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“Signing early has allowed me to do everything I wanted to do and train to get ready for the season,’’ Cespedes told The Post through a translator after a grueling 90-minute workout with Barwis earlier this week. “I’m much more comfortable now with having a multi-year contract. When you play year-to-year, sometimes you are concerned about getting hurt, but now all that’s in the past.’’

Cespedes is comfortable and it shows.

“Mike is a super-intelligent guy who is really helping me out and I am going to be ready to be healthy for the whole season,’’ Cespedes said.

Barwis marvels at Cespedes.


Yoenis Cespedes work out a the Barwis Methods workout facility.Larry Marano
“He has made an extra level of commitment and with being the world-class athlete that he is, the expectations are limitless,’’ Barwis said in a raspy, “you can do it, bro,’’ voice. “He wants to prove to everyone that the Mets made the right commitment to him. You’re talking about a man who has the potential that few people who walk this earth can ever smell.
“He is inspired to achieve greatness, while inspiring others, a guy like that, there is no stopping him. His workout is phenomenal. He is in here five days a week day pushing hard.’’


Every day is workout Groundhog Day.

With the workouts, massage therapy and much more, also come meals — breakfast, lunch and dinner.

“We even send them home with meals,’’ Barwis said.

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 Post subject: Re: Barwis to Return
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That article doesn't really say anything other than that they worked together which nobody was disputing. Sandy's comments were specific to the video that generated all the attention and was the basis for a lot of the comments.

Though I guess it'd be odd if Barwis was in the video if he supposedly was against the heavy lifting exhibitions.

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If they fire Barwis, and guys still get hurt, then there's no scapegoat anymore and it falls on Sandy (or whoever is in charge of these things) "process", which we love to cite.

Ditto Ray Ramirez.

Why take out the guys who get all the heat for something you're not sure you can improve/control anyway.


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Barwis is on record in numerous spots talking about the value of strength and heavy weights. He works with NFL players too. I have no clue if Barwis is good or not but he was clearly very, very hands on with Cespedes and had no issue promoting as much. I find it hard to believe one video undermined their work or that Cespedes secretly was doing his "own" thing

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