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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:46 am 
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dragonfly wrote:
should be getting closer to locking up that 5th pick that's going to turn this franchise around.

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Don't laugh, if everything goes right, Pick #5 should make his major sometime in 2022 or 2023.


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:17 am 
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lineup is out. I've picked up some bad karma the past 2 days so count me out for this IGT...


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:20 am 
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Amed Dia-rosario is likely "not available" but "improved" per Carig

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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:06 pm 
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It's Evans over Cheech again at 2B today. He's certainly impressing some people.


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:14 pm 
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It's Evans over Cheech again at 2B today. He's certainly impressing some people.


When the alternative is Cheech, its really not hard... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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And Aoki in CF today. That should be fun...

Lagares with thumb soreness. Does it ever end??

At least we may be able to excuse his recent troubles at the dish if his thumb has been barking.

But why not Nimmo in CF??


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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Many people slammed it at the time and the Lagares "extension" continues to be a complete boneheaded move. I'd love to know who in the FO advocated for it.

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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:44 pm 
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Many people slammed it at the time and the Lagares "extension" continues to be a complete boneheaded move. I'd love to know who in the FO advocated for it.


Agreed.

That whole "Oh but his defense is soooooo good just plug him in and bat him 8th" campaign that like all of the Mets beat and some here pushed lasted like 10 days, huh? Like I've said, Rite of Passage every year late summer before we remember what that looks like. The defense stuff is fun, for sure, but watching that offense every day is painful.

Luckily for him that extension will set him for life, as after its up, he'll enter the Craig Gentry portion of his career.


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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Many people slammed it at the time and the Lagares "extension" continues to be a complete boneheaded move. I'd love to know who in the FO advocated for it.

To play the other side of this, what has this "boneheaded move" prevented the team from otherwise doing? What great CFer were they otherwise going to have? Do you think they would have aggressively pursued Fowler last winter?

Oh yeah, many here wanted Span 2 yrs ago. Lagares has paced as a 2 win player. Span less than 1.5. Put me in the grateful pile that we didn't pull that trigger.


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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The Lagares extention - another reason why WAR is for the weak

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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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Ralf wrote:
Many people slammed it at the time and the Lagares "extension" continues to be a complete boneheaded move. I'd love to know who in the FO advocated for it.

To play the other side of this, what has this "boneheaded move" prevented the team from otherwise doing? What great CFer were they otherwise going to have? Do you think they would have aggressively pursued Fowler last winter?

Oh yeah, many here wanted Span 2 yrs ago. Lagares has paced as a 2 win player. Span less than 1.5. Put me in the grateful pile that we didn't pull that trigger.


It hasn't affected anything, as they haven't viewed Lagares as a regular since mid-2015 anyway, and he's still being paid as a backup (and he's fine in that role).

It will ultimately affect what they do over the next two years where he's being paid 2/16, though, which is starter money for the Mets. Which is probably why we're staring at either a Conforto/Nimmo/Ces/Aoki/Lagares OF mix, or if they upgrade there, probably a Cabrera/Reyes infield mix. Gotta find a below-market regular to balance the above market backup.


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 Post subject: Re: IGT - @ Fish 9/19
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Lagares is NEVER, EVER healthy. If they rely on him for next year... good luck.

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