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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:59 am 
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slugox wrote:
That would require actual moves being made.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:45 pm 
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Ralf wrote:
We have the 2018 thread asking what we think the FO will do. This is the what would YOU do thread.

The only rule is you must stay within Wilpon payroll constraints. This appears to be somewhere between $135-140m according to multiple reports. NO GOING OVER.


I've seen we're at about $135M right now? My crazy plan to finish out the offseason:

- Trade AJ Ramos (flip candidate for them), Juan Lagares, Robert Gsellman, Gavin Cecchini, Justin Dunn, and Marcos Molina for Whit Merrifield. That's about a net $15.7M savings.
- Trade Wheeler to Seattle for Dillon Overton (just picked some pre-arb lefty with options) and Eric Filia (pre-arb OF). Net saving of around $1.5M.
- Sign Alex Cobb: 3 years, $35M with 4th year option at $12M. ($10M/$12.5M/$12.5M).
- Sign Tony Watson: 2 years, $14M.
- Sign Todd Frazier: 2 years, $22M ($10M/$12M).
- Sign Jose Reyes: 1 year, $3M
- Sign whatever OFer will take a minor league deal.

This adds just under $13M, and I'm betting Omandy Minalderson will convince the Wilpons to go $8M over budget citing the Wright insurance money.

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Merrifield 2B
Conforto CF (Nimmo in April)
Cespedes LF
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Gonzalez 1B
d'Arnaud C
Rosario SS

Bench
Nimmo OF (FA/Boyd in April)
Plawecki C/1B
Flores IF
Reyes IF/OF
Cabrera IF (he could still play a lot)

Rotation
deGrom
Syndergaard
Cobb
Matz
Harvey

Bullpen
Familia
Swarzak
Blevins
Watson
Sewald
Lugo
Robles, Bradford, Callahan, Smoker, Rhame, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:06 pm 
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You traded all those guys for Merrifield then did what with him?


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:23 pm 
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What in the heck is that Merrifield trade.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:35 pm 
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Tom wrote:
You traded all those guys for Merrifield then did what with him?

Ha! Forgot about putting him in the lineup...will edit the original post.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:37 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
What in the heck is that Merrifield trade.


Too much? Was trying to offset the cost of Ramos for them.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:14 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
What in the heck is that Merrifield trade.


Too much? Was trying to offset the cost of Ramos for them.

Royals aren't going to pick up the $ you have in that deal. On the contrary, if they are trading controllable assets, they would prob want to dump off some of their $ commitments too, like Hammel.

Cheech, Nimmo, Gsell & Rhame for Merrifield & Hammel.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:22 pm 
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Wait, we're trading the New York Mets to the Royals for their second baseman?


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:35 pm 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
yalikeMetroplitans wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
What in the heck is that Merrifield trade.


Too much? Was trying to offset the cost of Ramos for them.

Royals aren't going to pick up the $ you have in that deal. On the contrary, if they are trading controllable assets, they would prob want to dump off some of their $ commitments too, like Hammel.

Cheech, Nimmo, Gsell & Rhame for Merrifield & Hammel.

Could be right. That ruins my bottom line, though!


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:49 pm 
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yalikeMetroplitans wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
What in the heck is that Merrifield trade.


Too much? Was trying to offset the cost of Ramos for them.


Its just a lot and quite frankly unrealistic - its a trade designed to save the Mets significant money while also netting them a fine 2B, and ends up requiring the Royals to take on a lot of $, clear 5(?) roster spots, and get not a ton of additional future value for a team that I don't think is looking to win now.

I don't really know why the Royals would trade Merrifield in the first place, but this package certainly wouldn't move them to, I don't think.

And quite frankly, I don't know if the Mets want to be trading 3 expected contributors in 2017 for 1.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:20 pm 
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And btw Filia was just handed a 50 game suspension for a drug of abuse. And there were also supposedly some makeup issues when he was at ucla, fwiw.


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 Post subject: Re: The 2018 "What Would YOU Do" Offseason Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:52 am 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
And btw Filia was just handed a 50 game suspension for a drug of abuse. And there were also supposedly some makeup issues when he was at ucla, fwiw.

Was just picking a pre-arb OF. It can be any of them in the their top 15-30 prospect range.


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