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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:56 am 
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Everyone envies the Dodgers when they spend a gillion dollars every season, but it's taken then 29 years to get to the World Series.

It's only been 2 year drought for us.


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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:08 am 
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I think JoeB put it best when he said of this group:
the Mets are a disgrace;
the Jets a disaster;
and the Knicks dysfunctional.

The Rangers are at the top of the class at merely a disappointment. :lol:


Have you seen their record this year? I hate sports

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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:55 am 
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R Nitelight wrote:
Everyone envies the Dodgers when they spend a gillion dollars every season, but it's taken then 29 years to get to the World Series.

It's only been 2 year drought for us.


8)


Spending money doesn't guarantee a thing. But it can surely help. And it's not money that caused the Dodgers to draft Seager and the Mets to draft Cecchini. And it's not money that gave the Dodgers the smarts to trade for Chris Taylor. Or draft Cody Bellinger.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:25 pm 
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And it IS money anytime there's an idea about a player who could really help the team, except...money

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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:08 pm 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
I think JoeB put it best when he said of this group:
the Mets are a disgrace;
the Jets a disaster;
and the Knicks dysfunctional.

The Rangers are at the top of the class at merely a disappointment. :lol:


I wonder how Joe B has a job. He is nothing but a walking cliché. I take it back, I see why he has a job.

I have had several breaking points with this team, the most recent was the infamous game with JMJ and Eric Campbell in the same lineup vs. Clayton Kershaw. If memory serves JMJ hit cleanup in that game--maybe I am combining nightmares.

After 40+ years, I have accepted baseball as what it is--a diversion. If you had to rank the top ways to describe me (be nice) "Mets Fan" would probably be fifth or six on the list. For me at least, that's a healthy balance. 25-30 years ago, that label would have ranked higher. That was tough, especially in the early 1990's. It pays to have other outlets.

I hated the 2017 season, as other than deGrom and the win I saw in April at Washington, the year sucked. However, the staff dismissals, the moving of the AAA team back to the International League and the apparent demise of the rest of the division has given me some hope.

Let's see what the next 30 days brings, we should have a new manager by then and a better idea of who is coming back next year, as well as who we might be in pursuit of.


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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:10 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Everyone envies the Dodgers when they spend a gillion dollars every season, but it's taken then 29 years to get to the World Series.

It's only been 2 year drought for us.

8)


Spending money doesn't guarantee a thing. But it can surely help. And it's not money that caused the Dodgers to draft Seager and the Mets to draft Cecchini. And it's not money that gave the Dodgers the smarts to trade for Chris Taylor. Or draft Cody Bellinger.


Huh? :shock:

The three top spenders the past 10 seasons:

Dodgers 7 division titles
Red Sox 5 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB
Yankees 6 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB

Money gets you to the postseason 6 out of 10 times.

Guess what the Mets have done the past 10 seasons?

1 postseason berth

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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:06 pm 
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Ralf wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Everyone envies the Dodgers when they spend a gillion dollars every season, but it's taken then 29 years to get to the World Series.

It's only been 2 year drought for us.

8)


Spending money doesn't guarantee a thing. But it can surely help. And it's not money that caused the Dodgers to draft Seager and the Mets to draft Cecchini. And it's not money that gave the Dodgers the smarts to trade for Chris Taylor. Or draft Cody Bellinger.


Huh? :shock:


The three top spenders the past 10 seasons:

Dodgers 7 division titles
Red Sox 5 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB
Yankees 6 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB

Money gets you to the postseason 6 out of 10 times.

Guess what the Mets have done the past 10 seasons?

1 postseason berth


If you want to disagree with the part that really has nothing at all to do with my post then so be it. If you may recall, the Mets have had plenty of high payrolls in the past with nothing to show for it. Maybe you forgot the 90's. Or the Minaya Mets who had one postseason appearance. Not to mention the Yankees before this year had missed the postseason 3 out of 4 years. And that for all the money they have spent the Dodgers have nothing to show for it. It's not only money that builds a winner which is the point of my post. Shrewd drafting, excellent trades, building a farm system etc all count. And if you bothered to look at some of my other posts you'd have seen that I'm totally PO'd that they don't spend like a big market team.


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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:28 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
If you want to disagree with the part that really has nothing at all to do with my post then so be it. If you may recall, the Mets have had plenty of high payrolls in the past with nothing to show for it. Maybe you forgot the 90's. Or the Minaya Mets who had one postseason appearance. Not to mention the Yankees before this year had missed the postseason 3 out of 4 years. And that for all the money they have spent the Dodgers have nothing to show for it. It's not only money that builds a winner which is the point of my post. Shrewd drafting, excellent trades, building a farm system etc all count. And if you bothered to look at some of my other posts you'd have seen that I'm totally PO'd that they don't spend like a big market team.


Mea culpa on the "other posts."

However, I will say that the bolded above is inextricably linked to money and ownership investment as well. The Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox all also have excellent scouting and development because they invest in it.

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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:36 pm 
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Ralf wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Everyone envies the Dodgers when they spend a gillion dollars every season, but it's taken then 29 years to get to the World Series.

It's only been 2 year drought for us.

8)


Spending money doesn't guarantee a thing. But it can surely help. And it's not money that caused the Dodgers to draft Seager and the Mets to draft Cecchini. And it's not money that gave the Dodgers the smarts to trade for Chris Taylor. Or draft Cody Bellinger.


Huh? :shock:

The three top spenders the past 10 seasons:

Dodgers 7 division titles
Red Sox 5 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB
Yankees 6 postseason berths in the toughest division in MLB

Money gets you to the postseason 6 out of 10 times.

Guess what the Mets have done the past 10 seasons?

1 postseason berth

No one would ever say that money doesn't help. But other teams have spent money and not won (Halos, Tigers come to mind). The Cards have been a mid-payroll team for most of the last 30 year and their team record speaks for itself. The Rays are generally competitive on a low payroll. Having money and being well-run (Dodgers, Yanks) is the combo that is tough to beat.


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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:34 pm 
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Ralf wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:
If you want to disagree with the part that really has nothing at all to do with my post then so be it. If you may recall, the Mets have had plenty of high payrolls in the past with nothing to show for it. Maybe you forgot the 90's. Or the Minaya Mets who had one postseason appearance. Not to mention the Yankees before this year had missed the postseason 3 out of 4 years. And that for all the money they have spent the Dodgers have nothing to show for it. It's not only money that builds a winner which is the point of my post. Shrewd drafting, excellent trades, building a farm system etc all count. And if you bothered to look at some of my other posts you'd have seen that I'm totally PO'd that they don't spend like a big market team.


Mea culpa on the "other posts."

However, I will say that the bolded above is inextricably linked to money and ownership investment as well. The Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox all also have excellent scouting and development because they invest in it.


You can check the last page of the "Yankee Elimination Thread," to see how I feel about the ownership. :P :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:33 am 
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I’m just tired of money being the determining factor more times than most rather than baseball decisions.

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 Post subject: Re: On a 1-10 scale, how fed up are you with this organizati
PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:40 am 
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ndfordarling wrote:
I’m just tired of money being the determining factor more times than most rather than baseball decisions.


Unfortunately the reality...just have to spend smart if you are Sandy.

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