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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:35 pm 
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Give Clayton Kershaw 4 runs and he has to lock it down. No one in the bullpen should even take off their jackets.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:49 pm 
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Well yeah you can't do anything about Kershaw going 4.2 innings pitching horribly. But you can do something about taking Alex Wood out after 5.2 innings when he allows one hit. Or taking Rich Hill out after 4 innings and 60 pitches when he's still pitching well. Or taking him out after 5 innings and 80 pitches in the NLCS.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:41 am 
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The other thing I hope this postseason changes is the obsessive bullpenization of baseball. This is the second year in a row neither bullpen can get anyone out by the end of the WS cause of the liberal overuse throughout the season.

I don't know if it's overuse during the season or just during the playoffs. Yeah, I think we're seeing that there is a price to pay for riding the same 2 or 3 RPers game after game. But in the big pix, after 7 months of baseball, it is a war of attrition to a degree. I mean, while the Yankee staff and pen were awesome almost all the way thru their playoff run, even they were starting to show some cracks by the end. It's definitely a balancing act, and Roberts in particular is paying the price for his quick hooks and the use of 6 and 7 arms every game.


So many of the bullpen woes would be alleviated if the starters went 6 innings instead of 4. It's one thing in an elimination game but now almost every playoff game is being treated where the SP's job is just to get through the order twice (four IP) and then bullpen, bullpen, bullpen even if the starter's pitching well. And pitching closers two innings in non-elimination games when they hardly ever do it, setup guys every freaking day, etc doesn't help either. LA didn't exactly have a taxing playoff run till this series and next to no pressure in the regular season and THEY'RE dying on the vine so I don't know if it's just playoff overuse or the inevitable wearing down from full season use combined with playoff overuse.

Plus having starters pitch in relief and only pitch like short relievers also makes no sense. If you're going to carry these guys why not try to get length out of them?!


I agree. And the Astros have had the worse pen and compensated by using their starters. I would argue by taking out Rich Hill earlier, Roberts lost his team the game by leaving Jansen in an unfamiliar situation and resulting in the blown save. Saber and stats are great but sometimes common sense is needed too.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:24 pm 
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I never realized what a career Rich Hill has had. A failed starter, then a failed reliever, then a minor league journeyman, then he puts it together and becomes a good starter for 4 games at the end of the 2015 season (after and he's been good every since. Before then he was signed and released by half a dozen teams. Lucky for him he'd gotten through his arb years by then and got some real money, but how many guys start the best part of their career at 35?

Rick Reed was pretty unusual figuring things out at 32. And there was RA Dickey too, but it's still pretty rare.

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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:21 pm 
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Oh look, there's Chase Utley making every effort to get out of a the way of a pitch that hits him.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:13 pm 
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Oh look, there's Chase Utley making every effort to get out of a the way of a pitch that hits him.


I like the fact he almost benefited from the "Utley rule."


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:27 pm 
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I literally had never seen a HBP on a ball that bounced before.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:41 pm 
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I literally had never seen a HBP on a ball that bounced before.

oh come on.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm 
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I'm not being sarcastic, I literally don't remember seeing a bounced ball resulting in a HBP before even though I've seen plenty of HBP's off a guy's foot and maybe at one point a pitch slightly bounced but not feet in front of the plate type noticeable like last night. Put it this way I've seen it so infrequently I was almost surprised that still counted as an HBP. Maybe it shouldn't be that odd to me since I have seen batted balls go off a runner which should be even more unlikely.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:26 pm 
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McCullers looks like he's not long for this game but got a huge out in the 1st and somewhat lucked into a huge DP to escape the 2nd.

Kershaw in relief.


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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:37 pm 
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I know that people are saying that this series is fun and all, but to me it smells like a tire fire.

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 Post subject: Re: Still need a reason to root for the Astros over the Dodg
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:42 pm 
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northway wrote:
I know that people are saying that this series is fun and all, but to me it smells like a tire fire.


Can't it be both? The ironic part is this is actually a game where early hooks for both pitchers are justified rather than overmanaging.


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