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Who is #18?
Poll ended at Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:50 pm
Kevin Kaczmarski (OF) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Gerson Bautista (RHP) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 29%  29%  [ 6 ]
Colin Holderman (RHP) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Juan Uriarte (C) 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
David Thompson (3B) 38%  38%  [ 8 ]
Jamie Callahan (RHP) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Nabil Crismatt (RHP) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Adrian Hernandez (OF) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Adonis Uceta (RHP) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 21
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 Post subject: Re: Who is #18?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:55 am 
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LTKfRGM wrote:
Out of curiosity, where would some of you rank some of the honorable mentions from BA Chat:

I did want to use this question to provide some quick hits on a few other Kingsport players who had some traction. The starting SS Hansel Moreno is a 55 runner with a 55 arm who could grow into more power as he fills out his 6-foot-4 frame. CF Anthony Dirocie has a bunch of tools that could play as major league average or above, but is lacking in his approach and overall hit tool. LF/RF Wagner LaGrange has similar issues as Dirocie but is limited to the corners because he gets poor reads and has just average speed. 3B Rigoberto Terrazas tore the cover off the ball as a switch-hitter with an above average plan at the plate. He doesn’t have flashy tools but could back up a few infield positions and sneak up on a major-league job. As one manager described him, “You don’t know he’s there, but he’s there.” Lastly, RHP Christian James has a sinking fastball from 90-93 mph that he pairs with a nice slider and a developing changeup as a consistent starter.

From: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2 ... yd6Y7P6.99

Jose Miguel Medina has tools but needs refinement. Trey Cobb is funky. But no there was no one who was in top 20 consideration and overall the cupboard is somewhat bare.

From: http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2 ... jE8B4ep.99

Or guys who got praise earlier in the year like Daison Acosta, who's stats might not have stood out, but he impressed in extended spring and early on for the GCL mets.

My 2 cents.

I think James showed enough to earn a top 50 spot and Jose Medina too, he made BA's top 30 mets. I'm more torn on the Kingsport guys and they tend to praise tools, but that doesn't mean guys are really top 50 guys being so far away.

Acosta might be top 50 too, the others seem more borderline to me.

Lagrange doesn't strike out much which I like (only guy on the team below 10%). Dirocie lead the K-Mets with 33 xbhs and a .254 ISO, but he struck out a ton. 93 times in 251 PAs.


Some of these players will get recognized later on, I'm sure. One you didn't mention is Walter Rasquin, a little guy who doesn't seem, at least not yet, to go away...

BTW: my pick for this round is Thompson. He may actually become serviceable.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:13 am 
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Hot Takes wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
stevereiff wrote:

Can we nominate Gregory Guerrero or has he really fallen that far behind Gimenez?

Other considerations:
Jhoan Urena
Jacob Rhame
Luis Carpio


I only have Urena in the top 50 of those 4.


Rhame not even in Top 50? I understand those 9 innings weren't good, but that's a pretty small sample to completely discredit someone upon.

Oh yeah, I do have him at like 47. And I had Urena at 40.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:18 am 
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Guerrero career

.236/.300/.274 DSL/GCL (19 in January)

Gimenez

.298/.397/.415 DSL/SAL (just turned 19)

Yeah I'd say there is a MASSIVE gap at this point.

Jeff P noted reports on Guerrero are poor as well so even beyond the numbers... maybe he breaks out in 2018 but he doesn't belong anywhere near Gimenez in the rankings.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:56 am 
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Joefrompgh wrote:

Some of these players will get recognized later on, I'm sure. One you didn't mention is Walter Rasquin, a little guy who doesn't seem, at least not yet, to go away...

BTW: my pick for this round is Thompson. He may actually become serviceable.


I thought about Rasquin but I wanted to stick with the guys who got praise from writers which was the two quotes and Acosta earlier in the year. At the end of the day I know very little about any of these guys. Maybe people who follow writeups more closely or subscribe know more - and some people here probably went to a few Brooklyn games and saw him.

Rasquin's another guy I might put in the top 50 but I'm guessing. I also like, for better or worse, Matt Winaker, for his 15 walks to 11 Ks. Limited playing time though.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:41 am 
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Rasquin is a real tough one... glove is not good, steals pop out at you but reportedly has "average-ish speed" so that's likely not a carrying skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #18?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:05 pm 
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LTKfRGM wrote:
Out of curiosity, where would some of you rank some of the honorable mentions from BA Chat:

I'd say I tend to be a little wary of the guys who are especially lacking in the hit tool at those levels. Just from a combination of the descriptions, and numbers relative to age, the ones who seemed most intriguing to me there were Christian James and Hansel Moreno. Then Lagrange. And Cobb maybe as a pen arm.

Terrazas had nice numbers, but it sound like tools aren't exciting, and being polished and performing in itself isn't all that impressive at that level, at age 21. Lagrange is a bit old as well, but continued to hit in his brief look at Brooklyn, and tools sound decent.


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