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 Post subject: 'Bullpenning' isn't the answer for the Mets' pitching woes
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:26 am 
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Newsday’s Marc Carig reports the Mets may attempt to limit their starters from going more than two times through the batting order in the coming season. Only Noah Syndergaard and Jacob deGrom would theoretically be free from the policy.

If the Mets were to take this approach with a playoff series, it would make sense. But there’s little logic to it as a regular-season strategy.

Getting through a batting order twice involves 18 outs. If a starter does that without allowing a baserunner, that’s six innings. Even under the most optimal circumstances, the Mets would still need at least three innings of work from their bullpen for three games every turn through the rotation. More realistically, especially given the health woes and recent quality of the Mets' starters not named Syndergaard or deGrom, we’re probably looking at about four- or five-inning outings. That’s quite a lot to ask from a bullpen, especially if Syndergaard and deGrom aren’t soaking up seven or eight innings every time they pitch.

As constructed, the Mets have only have three reliable relievers, none of whom (Jeurys Familia, A.J. Ramos, Jerry Blevins) should really be called upon for multiple-inning efforts. New York does have a large group of depth starters who can be deployed for multiple innings out of the bullpen (Rafael Montero, Robert Gsellman, Paul Sewald, Seth Lugo, Chris Flexen), perhaps as dedicated piggybackers following the back-end starters (Matt Harvey, Steven Matz, Zack Wheeler).

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I'm inclined to agree with that.

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It's being addressed in the offseason baseball news thread between me and MJ. If you want, can you transfer our posts here or yours there?


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The third time through the lineup thing is overstated...

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The Mets will attempt the 2 times through the lineup strategy until they remove a starter who is pitching well and the reliever coming in gets bombed. At that point the fans and the media will wonder how they can go with this strategy when the majority of their bullpen tops out at 92 MPH.


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I'm all for not letting your pitchers pitch when fatigued, which means not allowing too many pitches in one inning or one game.

An arbitrary rule like 'no more than twice through the order', however, doesn't accomplish this. A pitcher can be fatigued before going twice through the order, and sometimes a pitcher can go far deeper without fatigue.


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