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 Post subject: 12 braves free agents as penalty
PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:37 pm 
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http://rotoworld.com/player/mlb/9043/kevin-maitan

Hopefully Mets in on this. Time to open the wallet and replenish the farm

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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:53 pm 
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It certainly can be an opportunity. I wonder how the league will administer the re-allocation of these players. Will they go into the next class or will there be any special accommodation made for them?


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Mets don't have any money this signing period.


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Wow, Coppolella permanently banned from working in MLB.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:34 pm 
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Wow! This is some serious penalty. I have to say I would be shocked if the Mets aren't interested in getting one or more of these players.


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R Nitelight wrote:
Mets don't have any money this signing period.


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Where did they use it?

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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:30 pm 
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Joefrompgh wrote:
Wow! This is some serious penalty. I have to say I would be shocked if the Mets aren't interested in getting one or more of these players.


Interested probably yes. Willing to pay....probably no. Worst case scenario for the health of baseball is if the Braves lose these kids and the more talented ones end up with the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers.

I don't understand how it's okay for teams to have agreements with kids who aren't eligible to sign until 2021 but for some reason what the Braves did is deemed underhanded. If anything baseball needs to start to realize maybe these small market teams are starting to get desperate.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
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jdawginsc wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Mets don't have any money this signing period.


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Where did they use it?


They have 105k. However according to the new rules laid out they will be able to dip into next years bonus pool to sign any of the 12 players.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
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So I'm curious do these kids have to pay the Braves back for their signing bonuses? Also, I could see this ending in a court battle at some point. You just know some of these kids looked over matched in pro ball and that could scare some teams away thus lowering the amount of guaranteed money they get.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:50 pm 
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piazzafan wrote:
So I'm curious do these kids have to pay the Braves back for their signing bonuses? Also, I could see this ending in a court battle at some point. You just know some of these kids looked over matched in pro ball and that could scare some teams away thus lowering the amount of guaranteed money they get.


I think they keep their bonuses and are now on the market as if they never signed a deal.

Good on MLB for not punishing the smallest fish in this situation.


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piazzafan wrote:
Joefrompgh wrote:
Wow! This is some serious penalty. I have to say I would be shocked if the Mets aren't interested in getting one or more of these players.


Interested probably yes. Willing to pay....probably no. Worst case scenario for the health of baseball is if the Braves lose these kids and the more talented ones end up with the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers.

I don't understand how it's okay for teams to have agreements with kids who aren't eligible to sign until 2021 but for some reason what the Braves did is deemed underhanded. If anything baseball needs to start to realize maybe these small market teams are starting to get desperate.


That's not the main charge. The braves went over budget in 2015 but avoided the penalty by paying under the table. They sign an international amateur for a legal amount and sign an older international player - same agent, for more than he's worth and some money gets passed under the table. The Braves should have been in the penalty for 2015 but with under the table payments, avoided it, then in 2016 they spent gonzo, took the penalty but they shouldn't have been allowed to sign anyone for over $250,000.

That's why they lost so many players, cause they signed all those players illegally.

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 Post subject: Re: 12 braves free agents as penalty
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:55 am 
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As mentioned above, the worthwhile players will end up as Dodgers, Red Sox, and Yankees. Even more irritating is that the Mets should be able to act like the big dogs, but don’t.


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