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 Post subject: BP Mets top 10
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:56 am 
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1.Andres Gimenez, SS (1)
2. David Peterson, LHP (2)
3. Mark Vientos, SS (3)
4. Justin Dunn, RHP (6)
5. Thomas Szapucki, LHP (5)
6. Tomas Nido, C (11)
7.Peter Alonso, 1B (4)
8.Desmond Lindsay, OF (7)
9.Chris Flexen, RHP (15)
10. Luis Guillorme, SS/2B (8)

(NYFS rankings in parentheses)

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:54 am 
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Re: Becerra

Jeffrey Paternostro‏ @jeffpaternostro wrote:
At this point I don’t think he’d even be Top 30.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:02 am 
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Ralf wrote:
Re: Becerra

Jeffrey Paternostro‏ @jeffpaternostro wrote:
At this point I don’t think he’d even be Top 30.

Shocked and appalled.


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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:23 am 
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Is there a link to chat somewhere or did I miss it.

Oh and on the Becerra debate - I win. :-)

BA vs BP

1) Gimenez / Gimenez
2) Peterson / Peterson
3) Dunn / Vientos (BP likes Vientos)
4) Alonso / Dunn (is the fact that Dunn is 3/4 a good sign for Dunn or a bad sign for everyone else?)
5) Szapucki / Szapucki - (how high would he be without Tommy John Surgery)
6) Vientos / Nido (BP likes Nido)
7) Molina / Alonso (BA too high on Molina?)
8) Lindsay / Lindsay
9) Flexen / Flexen
10) Guillorme / Guillorme

Big differences

BP likes Vientos & Nido. BA likes Alonso & Molina. Otherwise, lists are virtually the same.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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Well at least we know the 20 or so NYFS voters will now be influenced and he won't get voted in until the 40s now.


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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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dragonfly wrote:
Well at least we know the 20 or so NYFS voters will now be influenced and he won't get voted in until the 40s now.



Disagree. I think the vast majority of NYFS members have already "given up" on Becerra. Ralf has been his #1 supporter (his right, not knocking him) but nobody was championing him here other than Ralf so what does this change? Jeff P simply confirmed what many on here felt.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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Metro2007 wrote:
dragonfly wrote:
Well at least we know the 20 or so NYFS voters will now be influenced and he won't get voted in until the 40s now.


Disagree. I think the vast majority of NYFS members have already "given up" on Becerra. Ralf has been his #1 supporter (his right, not knocking him) but nobody was championing him here other than Ralf so what does this change? Jeff P simply confirmed what many on here felt.


I agree that his stock is pretty weak at this point. I just think he should fall somewhere from 25-35, not 40+.

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Ralf wrote:

I agree that his stock is pretty weak at this point. I just think he should fall somewhere from 25-35, not 40+.


Noting wrong with that. I feel the same with Ali Sanchez. To me he's still a top 30 guy, maybe top 25 but others feel he's fallen well below that. I'm open on feeling the same about Carpio but the thing about Sanchez is that he's a good defensive catcher. That gets him a big boost in my book. A good defensive 2nd baseman isn't that interesting. Carpio could bounce back, but he's around 40-45 to me now. Becerra, I don't really know wher to rank him, maybe 35-45 ish, but he's a tough guy to rank.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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Hey part of the fun of prospects is liking who you like. Certainly within everyone’s right to have favorites (and others to present arguments for an against). I just think in this case Jeff’s comments are parroting the “consensus” (which I actually agree with). I don’t think there is suddenly going to be a huge “jumping of ship” because I think most people have already done so.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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I think disagreement over prospects is fun. Some folks see something others don't, and vice versa.

Case in point would be Flexen vs Oswalt the past few years...Uceta...Dom Smith.

Some guys are polarizing and that's the fun of prospects.

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 Post subject: Re: BP Mets top 10
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Becerra was playing 1b the final few weeks of 2017. If THAT is an indication of where he is shoulder-wise, he is toast.

Burnt toast.

Burnt toast which is cut up into pieces and fed to the birds.

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tejdog1 wrote:
Becerra was playing 1b the final few weeks of 2017. If THAT is an indication of where he is shoulder-wise, he is toast.

Burnt toast.

Burnt toast which is cut up into pieces and fed to the birds.


Not croutons?

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