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Poll ended at Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:26 pm
Wuilmer Becerra (OF) 23%  23%  [ 3 ]
Ali Sanchez (C) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jayce Boyd (1B) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Austin McGeorge (RHP) 46%  46%  [ 6 ]
Matt Pobereyko (RHP) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Matt Winaker (1b) 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Gregory Guerrero (SS) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ryder Ryan (RHP) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Mickey Jannis (RHP) 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
Cameron Planck (RHP) 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 13
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 Post subject: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:26 pm 
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If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.
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P.S. don't stress too much if you feel player X deserves to be on this list vs. player Y. It's extremely unlikely someone not yet nominated would be win any given poll. Nominate those you see fit.
** Executive decision, pulled the plug early on #7. By having the polls begin in the morning it allows for a more lively discussion. Lindsay was running away with the vote. Same with #10. Poll #11 will only have 9 options, I accidently had Kay listed a second time (copy and paste, sue me lol)

1) Andres Gimenez (SS) 12/27 votes-44%
2) David Peterson (LHP) 12/24 votes-50%
3) Mark Vientos (SS/3B) 13/24 votes-54%
4) Peter Alonso (1B) 21/28 votes-75%
5) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) 10/22-45%
6) Justin Dunn (RHP) 4/20-20%, runoff with Lindsay/Guillorme/Kay 9/22-41%
7) Desmond Lindsay (OF) 12/26-46%
8) Luis Guillorme (SS) 8/25-32%, run-off with Kay 11/22-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
9) Anthony Kay (LHP) 9/24-38%, run-off with Bashlor 10/20-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
10) Tyler Bashlor (RHP) 11/16-69%
11) Tomas Nido (C) 6/24-25%, run-off with Molina and Oswalt 12/20 60%
12) Marcos Molina (RHP) 6/20-30%, run-off with Evans 13/20-65%
13) Ronny Mauricio (SS) 6/17-35%
14) Gavin Cecchini (2B) 6/23-26%, run-off with Mazeika 12/15-80%
15) Chris Flexen (RHP) 8/26-31%, run-off with Mazeika/Thompson 8/11-73%
16) Patrick Mazeika (C) 6/22-27%, run-off with Thompson 8/14-57%
17) Corey Oswalt (RHP) 6/21-29%, run-off with Thompson 10/18-56%
18) David Thompson (3B) 8/21-38%
19) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 9/16-56%
20) Kevin Kaczmarski (OF) 5/14-36%
21)Gerson Bautista (RHP) 5/24-21%, run-off with Evans 11/19-58%
22) Phil Evans (UTIL) 6/17-35%
23) Juan Uriarte (C) 6/19-32%
24) Drew Smith (RHP) 6/21-29%, run-off with Uceta 11/18-61%
25) Adonis Uceta (RHP) 9/20-45%
26) Jamie Callahan (RHP) 3/14-21%, Runoff with Holderman/Conlon 9/16-56%
27) PJ Conlon 6/16-38%
28) Nabil Crismatt 4/14-29%, Runoff with Holderman 10/17-59%
29) Colin Holderman 3/14-21%, Runoff with Blackham 7/13-54%
30) Matt Blackham 5/18 28%, Runoff with Becerra 9/13-69%
31) Steven Villines 3/15-20%, runoff with Becerra/James/Brodey 6/15-40%
32) Adrian Hernandez 3/17-18%, Run off with Becerra/James/Brodey 4/11-36%
33) Jhoan Urena (1b/3B) 3/16-19%, runoff with James 6/11-55%
34) Christian James (RHP) 4/16-25%, runoff with Nogosek 7/12-58%
35) Stephen Nogosek 8/17-47%
36) Jacob Rhame 4/16-27%
37) Quinn Brodey (OF) 5/20-25%, runoff with McNeil/Becerra 6/14-43%
38) Jeff McNeil (UTIL) 4/17-24%, runoff with Becerra/McGeorge 6/15-40%

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:23 pm 
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Ok I think the fact Becerra is potentially not a top 40 prospect in the weak farm system of the Mets is a lil naive.

Yes he had a down year... Yes he was dropped off the 40 man and cleared waivers...

But he obviously has some intangible tools to be a highly rated prospect at the start of last season...

Guy had a down year... but it could of been a injury...
He was recovering from an injury during the previous season...


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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:24 pm 
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I don't know much about McGeorge, so I could be wrong, but there's like 6 or 7 guys some not nominated yet, who I have a grade above him.

I will say this, reading up on some lists, Metro was right and I was wrong on Crismatt. There's some praise written about him here and there. Amazin Avenue ranked him #14 overall and MetsMinors said he had the best changeup in the metsminors.net and MMO (articles may be identical, I haven't looked closely).

http://metsminors.net/best-tools-in-met ... sletter%29

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2018/01/me ... ools.html/

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:33 pm 
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stevereiff wrote:
Ok I think the fact Becerra is potentially not a top 40 prospect in the weak farm system of the Mets is a lil naive.

Yes he had a down year... Yes he was dropped off the 40 man and cleared waivers...

But he obviously has some intangible tools to be a highly rated prospect at the start of last season...

Guy had a down year... but it could of been a injury...
He was recovering from an injury during the previous season...


2 down years. Not one. .734 OPS in 2016 with 1 home run over 65 games, followed that up with a repeat of the level .667 OPS 4 homers... 132 k's over 469 ab's... and a late season move to 1b. This isn't a guy who put up big numbers, bad year and everyone is jumping ship.

His OPS the last 3 seasons... .765, .734, .667. In that time he's hit a whopping 14 homers over 311 games (roughly 2 MLB seasons) while striking out 280 times (roughly 140 per season). He's a CO and has thickened up over the years to the point he has very little speed (yes he stole 16 bases). His career OPS in the minors is .724

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:41 pm 
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Metro2007 wrote:
stevereiff wrote:
Ok I think the fact Becerra is potentially not a top 40 prospect in the weak farm system of the Mets is a lil naive.

Yes he had a down year... Yes he was dropped off the 40 man and cleared waivers...

But he obviously has some intangible tools to be a highly rated prospect at the start of last season...

Guy had a down year... but it could of been a injury...
He was recovering from an injury during the previous season...


2 down years. Not one. .734 OPS in 2016 with 1 home run over 65 games, followed that up with a repeat of the level .667 OPS 4 homers... 132 k's over 469 ab's... and a late season move to 1b. This isn't a guy who put up big numbers, bad year and everyone is jumping ship.

His OPS the last 3 seasons... .765, .734, .667. In that time he's hit a whopping 14 homers over 311 games (roughly 2 MLB seasons) while striking out 280 times (roughly 140 per season). He's a CO and has thickened up over the years to the point he has very little speed (yes he stole 16 bases). His career OPS in the minors is .724


Yes Yes... but he was injured in 2016 too...
Anyway, I just can’t justify not selecting a guy who even with limited opportunity could turn it around with solid AA/AAA production vs choosing others on this list who have at best limited MLB prospects.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
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stevereiff wrote:
Ok I think the fact Becerra is potentially not a top 40 prospect in the weak farm system of the Mets is a lil naive.

Yes he had a down year... Yes he was dropped off the 40 man and cleared waivers...

But he obviously has some intangible tools to be a highly rated prospect at the start of last season...

Guy had a down year... but it could of been a injury...
He was recovering from an injury during the previous season...


Urena was a former Top 10 prospect in the system as well, is coming off a solid season, and wasn't a Top 30 prospect this season. Sometimes guys don't pan out, and once it's clear that they're not going to pan out, there's no point in pretending otherwise.

Beccera was considered "toolsy" at one point, but what tools does he have at this point? The power potential scouts originally thought he had basically doesn't exist. He's strictly a corner OF. What's interesting about that profile?

You could make an argument that his profile isn't too different from Kaz's or Brodey's at this point but I have more confidence in Kaz's hit tool and eye and Kaz has better speed and is more likely to be able to play CF in a pinch.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:49 pm 
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Beccera has the tools of Ruben Tejada at this point. And he's an OFer. Not even Top 50 in a bad system to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
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What gives Becerra any better odds of being a big leaguer than a reliever with a big K rate?

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #39?
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And McGeorge has gotten great reviews on his slider. He's probably not anything more than a middle reliever but he's on a similar track to Sewald. Definitely a better prospect than Beccera at this point.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:00 pm 
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And McGeorge has gotten great reviews on his slider. He's probably not anything more than a middle reliever but he's on a similar track to Sewald. Definitely a better prospect than Beccera at this point.

I think if McGeorge had recently been aquired from another system in a trade, he might have ranked ahead of Nogosek or Rhame. There's just not much reason to report on these guys unless they are traded.


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