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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:39 pm 
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MookieWouldaBeatIt wrote:
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Sounds like the Giants offer was 3/30. Basically the Mets had to pay a $3m/yr premium for Bruce to "want" to come back.



Not True He wasn't signing for 3/30 with anyone

3/39 was the "get it done" price. for the Mets or the Jays or whoever


I wish they wouldn't have got it done at any price. I am so "over" Jay Bruce.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:46 pm 
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Ralf wrote:
Sounds like the Giants offer was 3/30. Basically the Mets had to pay a $3m/yr premium for Bruce to "want" to come back.


Yes that is how negotiations work sometimes.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:19 pm 
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Despite what his agent said (likely trying to just pick a team that has an obvious need and one that is wont to spend loads of cash at times), I don't know if I buy that SF was somewhere Bruce was dying to get to over here. Thats a terrible park for Bruce as a LH pull-heavy hitter.

Houston sounds like it was his mark. He supposedly met in person with Crane earlier this week.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:38 pm 
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Actually, the Mets got Sandy'd.

The more I think about it, this might be the worst allocation of assets in the Sandy Era, and is possibly Jason Bay part 2.

For perhaps $3-5m per year, they could have had Cain.
For $20 million less over 3 years, they could have likely had Cargo.

For Likely the same price over three years, they could probably have had Frazier AND Reed.


They're paying him 13 million per year on average. You're not getting Frazier and Reed combined for that.


I am assuming Frazier is getting a two year deal; likely Reed as well. That's probably $36m for two years of each (Frazier-2/25; Reed 2/15)

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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jdawginsc wrote:
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Actually, the Mets got Sandy'd.

The more I think about it, this might be the worst allocation of assets in the Sandy Era, and is possibly Jason Bay part 2.

For perhaps $3-5m per year, they could have had Cain.
For $20 million less over 3 years, they could have likely had Cargo.

For Likely the same price over three years, they could probably have had Frazier AND Reed.


They're paying him 13 million per year on average. You're not getting Frazier and Reed combined for that.


I am assuming Frazier is getting a two year deal; likely Reed as well. That's probably $36m for two years of each (Frazier-2/25; Reed 2/15)


Frazier at 2/18 or even 2/16 wouldn't surprise me. He's not a bad player but I don't see a lot of demand for an infield corner guy who hits .220.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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I was told flat out earlier this off-season he badly wanted to play in Texas and was willing to DH for either Texas team if the money were close.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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I was told flat out earlier this off-season he badly wanted to play in Texas and was willing to DH for either Texas team if the money were close.


Bruce or Frazier?


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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:09 pm 
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I was told flat out earlier this off-season he badly wanted to play in Texas and was willing to DH for either Texas team if the money were close.


Yea, despite his comments, he definitely did not want to come back here.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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I was told flat out earlier this off-season he badly wanted to play in Texas and was willing to DH for either Texas team if the money were close.


Bruce or Frazier?


Bruce. He's from Texas. I heard that he expressed strong interest in the Astros, but I don't think their owner wanted him that much.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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I was told flat out earlier this off-season he badly wanted to play in Texas and was willing to DH for either Texas team if the money were close.


Bruce or Frazier?



Bruce. No insight on Frazier though he's a local guy so one would assume NYY/NYM are appealing.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
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 Post subject: Re: Mets sign Jay Bruce 3 years 39 million
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:04 pm 
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I am sure the entire league is full of players that would rather be playing somewhere else. And I also am sure every year FA players have their dream destination but do you think it works out even half the time?

If Bruce wanted to play in Texas that isn't really surprising. It's also not really worth much of anything as we see.


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