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Poll ended at Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:25 pm
Wuilmer Becerra (OF) 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
Ali Sanchez (C) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jayce Boyd (1B) 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Matt Winaker (1b) 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Gregory Guerrero (SS) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ryder Ryan (RHP) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Michael Paez (SS) 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
Luis Carpio (SS) 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Eric Hanhold (RHP) 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Tim Tebow (OF) 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 15
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 Post subject: Who is #44?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:25 pm 
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If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 35% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.
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** Executive decision, pulled the plug early on #7. By having the polls begin in the morning it allows for a more lively discussion. Lindsay was running away with the vote. Same with #10. Poll #11 will only have 9 options, I accidently had Kay listed a second time (copy and paste, sue me lol)

1) Andres Gimenez (SS) 12/27 votes-44%
2) David Peterson (LHP) 12/24 votes-50%
3) Mark Vientos (SS/3B) 13/24 votes-54%
4) Peter Alonso (1B) 21/28 votes-75%
5) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) 10/22-45%
6) Justin Dunn (RHP) 4/20-20%, runoff with Lindsay/Guillorme/Kay 9/22-41%
7) Desmond Lindsay (OF) 12/26-46%
8) Luis Guillorme (SS) 8/25-32%, run-off with Kay 11/22-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
9) Anthony Kay (LHP) 9/24-38%, run-off with Bashlor 10/20-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
10) Tyler Bashlor (RHP) 11/16-69%
11) Tomas Nido (C) 6/24-25%, run-off with Molina and Oswalt 12/20 60%
12) Marcos Molina (RHP) 6/20-30%, run-off with Evans 13/20-65%
13) Ronny Mauricio (SS) 6/17-35%
14) Gavin Cecchini (2B) 6/23-26%, run-off with Mazeika 12/15-80%
15) Chris Flexen (RHP) 8/26-31%, run-off with Mazeika/Thompson 8/11-73%
16) Patrick Mazeika (C) 6/22-27%, run-off with Thompson 8/14-57%
17) Corey Oswalt (RHP) 6/21-29%, run-off with Thompson 10/18-56%
18) David Thompson (3B) 8/21-38%
19) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 9/16-56%
20) Kevin Kaczmarski (OF) 5/14-36%
21)Gerson Bautista (RHP) 5/24-21%, run-off with Evans 11/19-58%
22) Phil Evans (UTIL) 6/17-35%
23) Juan Uriarte (C) 6/19-32%
24) Drew Smith (RHP) 6/21-29%, run-off with Uceta 11/18-61%
25) Adonis Uceta (RHP) 9/20-45%
26) Jamie Callahan (RHP) 3/14-21%, Runoff with Holderman/Conlon 9/16-56%
27) PJ Conlon 6/16-38%
28) Nabil Crismatt 4/14-29%, Runoff with Holderman 10/17-59%
29) Colin Holderman 3/14-21%, Runoff with Blackham 7/13-54%
30) Matt Blackham 5/18 28%, Runoff with Becerra 9/13-69%
31) Steven Villines 3/15-20%, runoff with Becerra/James/Brodey 6/15-40%
32) Adrian Hernandez 3/17-18%, Run off with Becerra/James/Brodey 4/11-36%
33) Jhoan Urena (1b/3B) 3/16-19%, runoff with James 6/11-55%
34) Christian James (RHP) 4/16-25%, runoff with Nogosek 7/12-58%
35) Stephen Nogosek 8/17-47%
36) Jacob Rhame 4/16-27%
37) Quinn Brodey (OF) 5/20-25%, runoff with McNeil/Becerra 6/14-43%
38) Jeff McNeil (UTIL) 4/17-24%, runoff with Becerra/McGeorge 6/15-40%
39) Austin McGeorge (RHP) 6/13-46%
40) Cameron Planck (RHP) 5/16-31%
41) Mickey Jannis (RHP) 3/17-18%, runoff with Pobereyko and Becerra 9/15-60%
42) Matt Pobereyko (RHP) 6/14 43%
43) Bryce Hutchinson (RHP) 6/16-38%

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #44?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Who is #44?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:01 pm 
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OBP SLG OPS PA
.335 .355 .690 782 Becerra in A+ last 2 years
.327 .388 .715 251 Lindsay in A this year.
.324 .270 .594 215 Paez in A+ this year

I'm having trouble seeing Lindsay as a top 10 guy, for putting up numbers not much better than Becerra has had the last two seasons playing a level higher, if Wuilmer is now supposed to be a complete non prospect after a mediocre year. Moreover, Wuilmer outperformed Paez, who is the same age, this year when playing at the same level.

Yes, Lindsay is younger and should rank higher than Wuilmer. And yes Paez had very nice numbers in the SAL. But Wuilmer had very nice numbers in Kingsdport at 19, and solid numbers in the SAL at 20 (better than Lindsay at the same age).

Yes, Wuilmer was dropped from the roster, and not claimed. But we're in the 40s. I don't think anyone else on the poll at this point had a chance in hell of being rostered, or would have had a chance of being claimed, even if they were eligible.

Wuilmer clearly had an off year, he was better a year ago at the same level. But he's still the same guy who outperformed Lindsay at same age/same level, and even this year he outperformed Paez at same age/same level. I think he's probably fallen far enough, here.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:39 pm 
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acerimusdux wrote:
OBP SLG OPS PA
.335 .355 .690 782 Becerra in A+ last 2 years
.327 .388 .715 251 Lindsay in A this year.
.324 .270 .594 215 Paez in A+ this year

I'm having trouble seeing Lindsay as a top 10 guy, for putting up numbers not much better than Becerra has had the last two seasons playing a level higher, if Wuilmer is now supposed to be a complete non prospect after a mediocre year. Moreover, Wuilmer outperformed Paez, who is the same age, this year when playing at the same level.

Yes, Lindsay is younger and should rank higher than Wuilmer. And yes Paez had very nice numbers in the SAL. But Wuilmer had very nice numbers in Kingsdport at 19, and solid numbers in the SAL at 20 (better than Lindsay at the same age).

Yes, Wuilmer was dropped from the roster, and not claimed. But we're in the 40s. I don't think anyone else on the poll at this point had a chance in hell of being rostered, or would have had a chance of being claimed, even if they were eligible.

Wuilmer clearly had an off year, he was better a year ago at the same level. But he's still the same guy who outperformed Lindsay at same age/same level, and even this year he outperformed Paez at same age/same level. I think he's probably fallen far enough, here.


Lindsay can play CF and he's probably hands down the most toolsy OF in the mets system (Only guy who might come close is Adrian Hernandez) - OK, that says something about how bad the mets depth is in OF, but Lindsay's got first round pick talent, but a lot of injuries.

It's possible that Becerra could come back and maybe his bad numbers last year were injury related (I think it's his shoulder and shoulders are tricky). I'm not ready to rank him though. There's a dozen guys I'd put before him who are still on board.

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 Post subject: Re: Who is #44?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:24 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Who is #44?
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I understand the point, though. Paez and Beccera is actually a pretty tough choice


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HeyNowHK wrote:
Metsminors 21-35:

21) Uceta
22) Evans
23) Drew Smith
24) Conlon
25) Kaczmarski


I'm a bit surprised Kaczmarski is that high. Though we had him even higher. He can hit some, but I don't think more than a guy like Evans, and I don't think that level of bat has as much value in a corner OF.

I think he's a guy who *might* make a roster at some point, as an emergency callup, because it might be better than sticking an infielder out there (like the Mets have done in the past with guys like Murpuy and Duda).

I guess a strong AFL performance though helped his ranking.


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acerimusdux wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
Metsminors 21-35:

21) Uceta
22) Evans
23) Drew Smith
24) Conlon
25) Kaczmarski


I'm a bit surprised Kaczmarski is that high. Though we had him even higher. He can hit some, but I don't think more than a guy like Evans, and I don't think that level of bat has as much value in a corner OF.

I think he's a guy who *might* make a roster at some point, as an emergency callup, because it might be better than sticking an infielder out there (like the Mets have done in the past with guys like Murpuy and Duda).

I guess a strong AFL performance though helped his ranking.

I don't know how much this actually factored into his ranking, but I believe the actual facts on the ground are that he's a pretty solid defensive OFer who can handle all three spots. And in a perfect real world, that could help him get to the show bc he has some pretty solid bat to ball skills. Looks like he also runs fairly well, so he could be a guy who's a more sum is greater than the parts type. But heck, Nimmo can barely get any daylight, so I'm not holding my breath that Kaz will see the majors w/o some big time attrition all around. And that's not to mention the age bias that he's going to be up against.


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