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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:05 pm 
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Joe and Evan on WFAN are definitely critical of the Mets/Wilpons and they apparently can't get any one associated with the organization to come on their show. They had Bruce on after the season and joked that if he re-signed they wouldn't be allowed to talk to him again. So, I could see there being something to the writers not wanting to really criticize ownership.


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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:10 pm 
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I don't think the reporters are "afraid" of the Wilpons. Especially the ones that write for real publications.


I have to disagree with you on that. The Mets are essentially the only NY franchise in the 4 major sports that penny pinches. In my opinion the media was tougher on them before the Adam Rubin/Omar incident. Since then they have really failed to go after them. Sure theres an article here and there but let's be honest SNY hires Daily News, WFAN and NY Post (among others) for their some of their shows. It just feels to me that there's a if you wash my back I will wash yours thing going on.

Meh. There's far less shillery on Met broadcasts then anything in Yankee world. And plenty of the commentary on the SNY shows is pretty openly critical of the team and how it's run if not taking direct hits at the Wilpons. I think general decorum and respect is all that keeps that from happening.


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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:17 pm 
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luciferase wrote:
Joe and Evan on WFAN are definitely critical of the Mets/Wilpons and they apparently can't get any one associated with the organization to come on their show. They had Bruce on after the season and joked that if he re-signed they wouldn't be allowed to talk to him again. So, I could see there being something to the writers not wanting to really criticize ownership.


To be fair that has nothing to do with the hosts, and everything to do with the Mets' own acrimonious departure from WFAN radio (and the Yankees' arrival there). I don't believe any WFAN show is allowed to have Mets on it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.2610771

But re: Carig and other beat writers I do think there's something to the whole taking a free shot out the door without any consequences which is a bit cowardly on his part. Cause the Mets can make life directly miserable for any beat guy if they wanted.


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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:46 pm 
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piazzafan wrote:
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I don't think the reporters are "afraid" of the Wilpons. Especially the ones that write for real publications.


I have to disagree with you on that. The Mets are essentially the only NY franchise in the 4 major sports that penny pinches. In my opinion the media was tougher on them before the Adam Rubin/Omar incident. Since then they have really failed to go after them. Sure theres an article here and there but let's be honest SNY hires Daily News, WFAN and NY Post (among others) for their some of their shows. It just feels to me that there's a if you wash my back I will wash yours thing going on.

I don’t think that is the case. And I don’t think the Mets have been immune from
criticism from the media. If anything it seemed like before this offseason fans were constantly getting on the beat writers for being too critical and mocking of the Mets on twitter (a sentiment I also disagreed with). And it’s not like there were any repercussions against Rubin for that incident. Sure he was probably a little embarrassed/surprised but he didn’t lose his job or access and stlll kept his great sources. There is the “Daily News” show on SNY but it’s never been a pro Mets propaganda type show.

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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:09 pm 
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The writers making constant snips on Twitter isn't the same as a well thought out published column calling out the ownership and management. Not even in the year 2018.


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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:49 pm 
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dragonfly wrote:
The writers making constant snips on Twitter isn't the same as a well thought out published column calling out the ownership and management. Not even in the year 2018.

I’m not saying tweets and articles are equivalent but if reporters were oh so scared about getting in “trouble” somehow for saying something negative they wouldn’t do either.

And it’s not like there are no negative articles written either.

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"Wright is greedy" is easily the worst take in the recent history of Mets fandom, and there have been some bad takes in Mets fandom.

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 Post subject: Re: Marc Carig leaving the mets beat
PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:18 pm 
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It's now official per Carig.


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