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 Post subject: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:32 pm 
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Conversations with 10 people possessing first-hand knowledge of the Mets’ baseball operations produced the picture of an ultra-intense environment, created by Mets ownership, in which the daily pressure to win, not only the games but the daily media coverage, has compromised the decision-making process and, hence, led to poor moves on multiple fronts. On the medical front, that has made the Mets the butt of many an industry joke.


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Another is an environment where CEO Fred Wilpon and COO Jeff Wilpon both are prone to micromanagement, with Fred Wilpon more likely to assert himself in on-the-field decisions and Jeff Wilpon more involved in medical matters — such as working on media releases about injuries — clouding the chain of command.


https://nypost.com/2018/01/27/a-much-needed-culture-change-can-help-a-long-standing-mets-nightmare/

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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:23 pm 
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I don't like those guys!

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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:06 pm 
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a family that struck it rich in real estate and has absolutely zero talents elsewhere, sound familiar? :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:07 pm 
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How do they expect them to win and grab the headlines when they don't allow them to financially compete with other big market teams. The team you are trying to win the headlines from gets any superstar they want. Even in a year when they aren't expected to compete their ownership lets them purchase superstars so they can flip them. That's something the Wilpons will never allow. So I find it hysterical if that article is true. At some point the Wilpon's have to know that they are the Mets road block to actually winning.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:09 pm 
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BTW, this is sort of what I mean about the media not going full force after the Wilpon's. The whole narrative that they desperatly want to win feels like a huge lie to me. They can say that they want to win but their actions say otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Pressure to win while we cut payroll, yep that sounds like a recipe for success!


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:26 am 
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a family that struck it rich in real estate and has absolutely zero talents elsewhere, sound familiar? :mrgreen:


Thing is, the Wilpons somehow come across as looking more clueless and less competent by comparison. Palm Beach Community College ain't Wharton.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:35 am 
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Running a competitve market baseball team is easy...
1. Put the best, well thought out 25 roster together your market allows without painting yourself into a corner
2. Acquire young hungry talent to push the above
3. Keep players healthy
4. Draft well and reward your draftees with opportunities.

At least they got 0 right.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:52 am 
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Running a competitve market baseball team is easy...
1. Put the best, well thought out 25 roster together your market allows without painting yourself into a corner
2. Acquire young hungry talent to push the above
3. Keep players healthy
4. Draft well and reward your draftees with opportunities.

At least they got 0 right.


Oops...


5. Focus on winning games, not the news narrative.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:34 am 
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I don't think they meddled enough this winter.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
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BTW, this is sort of what I mean about the media not going full force after the Wilpon's. The whole narrative that they desperatly want to win feels like a huge lie to me. They can say that they want to win but their actions say otherwise.


I disagree with you. The problem is that they have two primary urges. One is to save money so they turn a successful bottom line and the other is to win. I can totally see the Wilpons micromanaging and fussing over every press release. And they absolutely want to win, because wining = more money. They're just not willing to do what it takes to win. (full rebuild for example - same problem as the Dolans).

They've got to be close to the worst owners in baseball, but I never questioned that they wanted to win.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Wilpon meddling article
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:43 am 
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At the risk of being labeled an apologist...

I HATE the way the Mets handle public releases of info from a fan/entertainment perspective.

But how does Jeff Wilpon sticking his nose in the media relations part of injury disclosures affect the fact that the product on field continues to suck? That’s what I’m far more concerned about.


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