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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Obviously, I'm not saying he's never interacted with anyone ever. I'm saying, generally, he does not seem part of the team. Maybe, now that I've put this in your head, watch the beginning of the season and see if he looks like he's on the same team as everyone else, if he's invested in working with the other players to help the Mets win a championship, etc.

I think what you'll likely see is someone going through the motions and giving off the air of not caring. And, if there truly is (finally) accountability with this team, things may come to a head.

BTW, remind me why Cespedes refuses to play right field?


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Do you regularly observe clubhouse and off-hour interactions between the players?


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:03 pm 
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I'm saying, generally, he does not seem part of the team. Maybe, now that I've put this in your head, watch the beginning of the season and see if he looks like he's on the same team as everyone else, if he's invested in working with the other players to help the Mets win a championship, etc.

I think what you'll likely see is someone going through the motions and giving off the air of not caring. And, if there truly is (finally) accountability with this team, things may come to a head.



It's about here I would say, "oh just stop while you're behind" but I don't think that's going to happen.

And btw, can we extrapolate from what you say above that if things don't "come to a head" then Callaway is as unaccountable a skip as Collins [must have been]?


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:04 pm 
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I'm saying, generally, he does not seem part of the team. Maybe, now that I've put this in your head, watch the beginning of the season and see if he looks like he's on the same team as everyone else, if he's invested in working with the other players to help the Mets win a championship, etc.

I think what you'll likely see is someone going through the motions and giving off the air of not caring. And, if there truly is (finally) accountability with this team, things may come to a head.



It's about here I would say, "oh just stop while you're behind" but I don't think that's going to happen.

And btw, can we extrapolate from what you say above that if things don't "come to a head" then Callaway is as unaccountable a skip as Collins [must have been]?

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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
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It appears as though he was in St. Lucie about a month early, working with mostly younger guys.

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/cespedes-r ... /264748442


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:28 pm 
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I'll file this thread away with the one guaranteeing that d'Arnaud was going to be an All-Star in 2017 because some people just know their hunches will come true.


Ok, but I'll bump it when the implosion happens.


The obnoxious thing about drive-bys like this is that they only get bumped when they work out in the poster's favor.

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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:29 pm 
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BTW, remind me why Cespedes refuses to play right field?


Because he's not comfortable there and advanced analytics support the notion that right and left field are more or less equal on the defensive spectrum?

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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:45 pm 
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Admittedly this a bit out there.....

But if Cespedes doesn't run out a few fly balls yet it lets him remain healthy enough to play in 150 games, I'm all for it.


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:48 pm 
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SergioTheLittleMan wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
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I'm saying, generally, he does not seem part of the team. Maybe, now that I've put this in your head, watch the beginning of the season and see if he looks like he's on the same team as everyone else, if he's invested in working with the other players to help the Mets win a championship, etc.

I think what you'll likely see is someone going through the motions and giving off the air of not caring. And, if there truly is (finally) accountability with this team, things may come to a head.



It's about here I would say, "oh just stop while you're behind" but I don't think that's going to happen.

And btw, can we extrapolate from what you say above that if things don't "come to a head" then Callaway is as unaccountable a skip as Collins [must have been]?

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I guess irony is in the eye of the beholder.

And btw, I feel for ya! :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
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northway wrote:
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BTW, remind me why Cespedes refuses to play right field?


Because he's not comfortable there and advanced analytics support the notion that right and left field are more or less equal on the defensive spectrum?


So ... the team believed that the team overall would be better with him in right but he can just say "no" and that's ok with you? Would it have been equally ok if TDA refused to play 3rd when needed last year? How about if Reyes refuses to take reps in the outfield? Remind how Astrubal's infield preference went over?

Or are there just different rules for 24 vs 1?


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:50 pm 
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northway wrote:
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I'll file this thread away with the one guaranteeing that d'Arnaud was going to be an All-Star in 2017 because some people just know their hunches will come true.


Ok, but I'll bump it when the implosion happens.


The obnoxious thing about drive-bys like this is that they only get bumped when they work out in the poster's favor.


So ... I should bump it every time he doesn't implode?


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 Post subject: Re: T Minus ? Countdown to Cespedes implosion has begun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:51 pm 
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Blowing off the media from time to time is really what's the issue here? The media crosses the line all the time - especially the New York Post (You mentioned Phil Mushnick; he's pretty overtly racist on a regular basis for that paper), and that's the issue? The media gets plenty of quotes from players all the time; wanting to skip interviews every so often isn't a big deal at all.


You really think the Mets asked Cespedes 5 times to speak to the media - 5 different people - and it isn't a big deal to them?


I think in a perfect world you'd rather he talks to the media every day, I guess, but as long as he's getting along with his teammates and coaches and he's producing, not talking to the media occasionally is way down on my list of concerns.

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