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 Post subject: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:09 pm 
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I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

That's not to say that Matz doesn't have upside, but stats so far, I think the mets 3-4-5 are just about as bad as can be.

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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:13 pm 
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Not even close. Look at the Royals rotation.

The Mets have a problem with Vargas, everybody else looks good right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:32 pm 
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Time to flip flop vargas and Lugo. Bad teams can't afford the legacy of saving a quality starter for that role.


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:38 pm 
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Most likely they would like to have Swarzak back in the pen before moving Lugo out of the pen (to the rotation).


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:39 pm 
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degromination wrote:
Time to flip flop vargas and Lugo. Bad teams can't afford the legacy of saving a quality starter for that role.


Taking Lugo out of the pen creates a new problem.

If they come to the conclusion that Vargas needs to pulled from the rotation, then they either need a new starter or a new late-inning reliever.


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:53 pm 
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Metsfan980 wrote:
degromination wrote:
Time to flip flop vargas and Lugo. Bad teams can't afford the legacy of saving a quality starter for that role.


Taking Lugo out of the pen creates a new problem.

If they come to the conclusion that Vargas needs to pulled from the rotation, then they either need a new starter or a new late-inning reliever.


Well Vargas replaces the overall innings the pen would lose, as far as high leverage appearances, I say give them to Blevins. He was better when he wasnt in this purely one-batter-reliever role. Start giving him full innings and see if he can start getting his touch back.


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:32 pm 
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Not by a longshot, the Orioles for one are pretty bad and they actually pay more money to their 3-5 guys than the Mets or other hideous rotations like the Royals, White Sox and Reds. I mean my god this is just bad for a team that was actually 'trying' to win:

Cashner 11 starts 5.07 ERA 1.67 WHIP
Cobb 8 starts 7.32 ERA 1.93 WHIP
Tillman 7 starts 10.46 ERA 2.21 WHIP

Honestly Matz at a 3.8 ERA really isn't even that bad, he just doesn't pitch enough innings...it's really 4-5 that are a waste but most of baseball can say that.


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 Post subject: Re: Do the mets have the worst 3-4-5 pitchers in all MLB?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:14 am 
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Metsfan980 wrote:
, everybody else looks good right now.

What.


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