Fri May 18, 2018 12:52 pm
piazzafan wrote:I think that Alonso has definatley surpassed Smith as a prospect. But with that being said I think that they can both be dang good major league players.
I think the juiced baseball sort of clouds prospect evaluations now (I know you guys are getting sick of hearing about the juiced baseball from me). I think Ozzie Albies when he was a minor leaguer is the perfect comp to Dom Smith offensively. Albies was projected as a high average contact hitter that wasn't expected to have much power. Fast forward a year later and the kid is hitting homers all over the place. It's not out of the realm of possibility that with a contact approach Dom can smack 30 homers in the majors because of the juiced ball. The thing that hurts Smith is that he's a lefty with no speed so the shift is going to kill him. And for the record the shift should be illegal. The old narrative that the hitter should learn how to go the other way is nonsense. It's nearly impossible for these guys to knock an inside 95+ MPH fastball the other way. Only hitters with an elite hit tool can do that.
As for Alonso, elite bat speed + elite exit velocity + juiced ball = potential superstar. And I would say that Alonso can put up Aaron Judge type numbers once he settles into the majors.
Fri May 18, 2018 1:34 pm
johnnymets176 wrote:Metro2007 wrote:Dom Smith has not been good this season. Certainly not "he looks like an MLB starting 1b" good. Hopefully that changes.
840 ops in AAA is ok...
Fri May 18, 2018 1:39 pm
Fri May 18, 2018 2:15 pm
Hot Takes wrote:Paternostro and Siedler made this point on their podcast the other day, and I'll repeat it:
The gap in actual tools between, say, Lucas Duda and Paul Goldschmidt is very small (just talking hit and power). Duda is probably 45 hit/60 power, and Goldschmidt is probably 55 hit/70 power. But the difference in actual value there is huge -- Goldschmidt is a star and Duda is barely a starter at this point. Alonso could be 45/60, and he could be 55/70. It's too early to tell. But he has upside at the plate with his power that Smith just doesn't have, and unless Smith can get some power without selling out contact, Alonso will continue to be the better actual prospect even if scouts don't like Alonso's profile.
yalikeMetroplitans wrote:Alonso comps...
3 MiLB seasons for both
PA .349/.447/.659/1.104 in 48 games
KB .355/.458/.702/1.160 in 68 games
Fri May 18, 2018 2:26 pm
Metro2007 wrote:It's certainly meaningful pointing to an .840 OPS and suggesting it's "okay" in the PCL.
Fri May 18, 2018 3:25 pm
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Sat May 19, 2018 11:04 am
ndfordarling wrote:I don’t understand the rush to say smith is a bust he still is only 23, his knock was he doesn’t have power yet came up and displayed power but poor contact. Conforto in ur 2 was a “bust” and people wanted to get rid of him. Rosario is now a bust. It’s a long way to the hall of fame and I hope that both these guys have a great career but to label either a future star or a bust it’s just way too early let it play out.
Sat May 19, 2018 11:22 am
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Sat May 19, 2018 4:58 pm
acerimusdux wrote:Be patient with Smith in AAA, and it's still a pretty decent chance he might be a starting MLB first baseman two years from now. But it's fair to suggest that Alonso might be the better choice if you need one this year.
No need to make any long term decisions between the two, though. Smith won't be out of options until 2021. And these are two guys who could platoon at some point, if needed, as well.