Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:30 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:53 pm
Disco Ball wrote:One thing to remember is that they had an historically bad June (5-21). Not even the 62 Mets had as bad of a full month of play. Had they played "as well" in June as they had in May (10-18), this would be a .500 team. Not great baseball by any means, but certainly not Marlinesque either.
Whatever resources they have should be funneled to acquiring some more reliable bullpen arms. I am in agreement with the faults pointed out about Nimmo, Conforto, Rosario, etc., but every player has flaws and nearly every lineup has it's question marks. The Mets have been a much more entertaining team to watch since the ASB. They are poised for the next step, hopefully a forward one
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:58 pm
Metro2007 wrote:Huh? The Mets don't care about payroll suddenly? They have about 110 committed for next season. There are 2 "middle of the order" bats available... Machado/Harper, you honestly believe the Mets will be in on either player? Absolutely not. 0% chance. In fact, I'd be surprised if they even take a meeting with them. That leaves you with guys like 39 year old Nelson Cruz (not happening) and Donaldson at 33 years old coming off an awful season. In fact, outside of Cespedes taking less money than expected when is the last time the Mets even pursued a top dog FA? Carlos Beltran in 2005? Have they even taken a meeting with a "top" guy since Madoff happened? if they have I don't recall it. So yeah, money is absolutely "the" factor in everything the Mets do.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:11 pm
MetFan29 wrote:Metro2007 wrote:Metro2007 wrote:
That's it? You can't come up with a really excuse?
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:12 pm
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:05 pm
Metro2007 wrote:Matt Ehalt
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Mets are not in on the Mesas for those wondering.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:01 pm
Kiley McDaniel: This is probably what he is–toolsy, electric, a little impatient, probably plays a bit below the ultimate upside but a solid regular with a chance to be well above
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:21 pm
Metsfan980 wrote:They were one of the more active teams last year in FA, signed Cespedes to some massive AAV contracts, and will have most of Wright's and Cespedes' salaries covered by insurance next year. Plus, they don't really have any guaranteed contracts beyond 2019 outside of a year of Bruce, Cespedes, and arbitration guys.
I know it's the easy joke to make, but the Mets have shown an inclination to add pieces when contending and have the financial freedom to give out a big deal.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:19 pm
MetsWhiz93 wrote:MarkJohnson>You wrote:Being young and mediocre isn't any better than being old and mediocre.
There's a lot of justifying bringing back the same core, but again, unless you're projecting huge gains in 1 year from a lot of these guys, why would the outcome be different? Simply citing age doesn't do anything for me.
Oh, and as much as it may be a Negative Nancy thing to say - we can keep citing the 2nd half record. Its happening during a stretch where 60% of our rotation is pitching to a 2.2 ERA. DeGrom and Wheeler by themselves have a RIDICULOUS 1.55 ERA in the 2nd half together. We're getting historically great pitching performances and are going to win 72-75 games.
I mean, go ahead of pencil that in for next year if you'd like - along with the improvement from all the youngsters - and then you can talk about your 90 win dream (which is where the WC is headed). But excuse me for thinking thats not very practical.
So, again, if you keep everything in tact, whats the path to contending?
This is an excellent post and I wish the people who merely say to bring everyone back would answer the question here.
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:33 pm
bygranddesign wrote:This is because the offense played well below the low end of projections
If you believe that Conforto is mediocre. And Bruce will hit like Rey Ordonez. And McNeil and Nimmo really are not that good. And Rosario won’t improve. And first base will be a black hole. Frazier will get hurt again and Reyes will get 400 at bats.
And they won’t look to make any little moves to improve the offense or the bullpen
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:50 am
Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:28 am
Disco Ball wrote:Unless there is a drastic shift this offseason, the gap for the Mets from a probable fourth place finish in 2018 and a playoff spot in 2019 isn't that far. While I tend to agree with the sentiments on this board that the team's play since 8/1 is somewhat illusionary, I also see several of these young players are establishing themselves as bona fide MLB starting players, warts and all.