Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:03 pm
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:01 pm
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:24 pm
Kevin From Spotswood wrote:This should have happened years ago. As for others, it’s hard to justify retiring anyone who played fewer than 10 years with the Mets.
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:18 pm
TomInNC wrote:Kevin From Spotswood wrote:This should have happened years ago. As for others, it’s hard to justify retiring anyone who played fewer than 10 years with the Mets.
You mean like Piazza?
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:28 pm
Asked whether the retirement of Koosman's number means the Mets will be retiring other numbers in the future, Wilpon said "we have a plan to catch up."
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:47 pm
Kevin From Spotswood wrote:TomInNC wrote:Kevin From Spotswood wrote:This should have happened years ago. As for others, it’s hard to justify retiring anyone who played fewer than 10 years with the Mets.
You mean like Piazza?
I said it is hard to justify, not impossible. I'm ok with Piazza, but he meant more to the team than just his numbers. Typically, retiring a number for a guy who was only with the team for 5-7 years requires that they do something historic. You can give a player a plaque and enshrine him into the team hall of fame without retiring his number.
And as far as Koos goes, if the team had any offense at all in the 70's his HoF credentials would be as good as lot of guys who are already in there. Its laughable that he had 4 losing seasons posting the numbers that he did. The only thing that Sutton and Mussina had on Koosman were better teams behind them.
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:06 pm
Kevin From Spotswood wrote:TomInNC wrote:Kevin From Spotswood wrote:This should have happened years ago. As for others, it’s hard to justify retiring anyone who played fewer than 10 years with the Mets.
You mean like Piazza?
I said it is hard to justify, not impossible. I'm ok with Piazza, but he meant more to the team than just his numbers. Typically, retiring a number for a guy who was only with the team for 5-7 years requires that they do something historic. You can give a player a plaque and enshrine him into the team hall of fame without retiring his number.
And as far as Koos goes, if the team had any offense at all in the 70's his HoF credentials would be as good as lot of guys who are already in there. Its laughable that he had 4 losing seasons posting the numbers that he did. The only thing that Sutton and Mussina had on Koosman were better teams behind them.
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:42 pm
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Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:27 pm
LTKfRGM wrote:Some entertaining choices there Tom. Joe Foy makes for great storytelling, but there's about 500 mets more deserving.
And Gooden was part of the 86 rotation.
Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:20 pm
TomInNC wrote:In order of deserving an honor like this from the Mets:
Wright
Hernandez
Carter
Beltran
Kranepool
Jones
Matlack
Agee
Grote
Every other member of the 69 Mets
The 1986 rotation (less Gooden)
Santana
Orosco
Knight
Cone
The great defensive infield
Delgado
Todd Pratt
Endy
Leiter
Franco
Kingman
Jefferies
McReynolds
Every member of the 1962 team
Strawberry
Craig Swan
Felix Milan
John Maine
Ed Hearn
Roger McDowell
Rickey Henderson
Todd Zeile
Neil Allen
Nolan Ryan
Joe Foy
Jim Fregosi
Gooden