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Author:  LTKfRGM [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

I was looking at the top prospects and where they'll start and there's a clear lack of depth in the upper minors, but the off the 40 but could see majors depth isn't all that bad.

David Peterson - AAA

Franklyn Kilome - Tommy John surgery October 25, 2018, so if all goes well he should be about ready to go in April (18 months). A few starts in A+ then AAA.

Kevin Smith, could start in AA or AAA, could see majors this year.

Szapucki, already on the 40. I'm thinking bullpen is more likely and probably starts in AA.

Ryley Gilliam. Saw limited time in AAA last year, probably starts there, could see majors this year out of the pen.

Steven Villines - Likely starts in AAA, could see some bullpen time as well.

Nogosek, Ryan . . . are in the mix.

And Gonsalves was a sneaky add to the rotation depth, also on the 40 and I've not given up on Lockett, even if others have.

They're weak in position players in the upper minors, especially weak in the OF, which is why Matt Adams was a good addition. But the pitching depth isn't that bad. Several of these guys could play roles this year if the 40 man roster doesn't hold up.

Author:  Mogriffjr [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

Drew Smith also is an option for the pen too.

Author:  Mogriffjr [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

LTKfRGM wrote:
I was looking at the top prospects and where they'll start and there's a clear lack of depth in the upper minors, but the off the 40 but could see majors depth isn't all that bad.

David Peterson - AAA

Franklyn Kilome - Tommy John surgery October 25, 2018, so if all goes well he should be about ready to go in April (18 months). A few starts in A+ then AAA.

Kevin Smith, could start in AA or AAA, could see majors this year.

Szapucki, already on the 40. I'm thinking bullpen is more likely and probably starts in AA.

Ryley Gilliam. Saw limited time in AAA last year, probably starts there, could see majors this year out of the pen.

Steven Villines - Likely starts in AAA, could see some bullpen time as well.

Nogosek, Ryan . . . are in the mix.

And Gonsalves was a sneaky add to the rotation depth, also on the 40 and I've not given up on Lockett, even if others have.

They're weak in position players in the upper minors, especially weak in the OF, which is why Matt Adams was a good addition. But the pitching depth isn't that bad. Several of these guys could play roles this year if the 40 man roster doesn't hold up.


It’s such an overreaction I feel. I honestly kept waiting for Dunn to take that leap and while he’s a solid arm, I never felt he was a long term solution in the rotation. I feel like he will ultimately end up in the pen. Kay I began to like a bit as the next rotation piece but even him, I felt he was more of a back of the rotation guy. Basically what Peterson is.

As far as the rest. Listen if any of the horses fall, the Mets will be in trouble anyways, if Kay/Dunn we’re here or not. Kilome I def need to see more, Puck hopefully regains his stuff as he continues to recover, K.Smith...eh don’t really care for him. Payano maybe a good bet over the bunch you listed.

Author:  yalikeMetroplitans [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

Mogriffjr wrote:
Drew Smith also is an option for the pen too.

Totally forgot about Smith. Hope he comes back from TJ in good shape.

Author:  Metsfan980 [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

Mogriffjr wrote:
LTKfRGM wrote:
I was looking at the top prospects and where they'll start and there's a clear lack of depth in the upper minors, but the off the 40 but could see majors depth isn't all that bad.

David Peterson - AAA

Franklyn Kilome - Tommy John surgery October 25, 2018, so if all goes well he should be about ready to go in April (18 months). A few starts in A+ then AAA.

Kevin Smith, could start in AA or AAA, could see majors this year.

Szapucki, already on the 40. I'm thinking bullpen is more likely and probably starts in AA.

Ryley Gilliam. Saw limited time in AAA last year, probably starts there, could see majors this year out of the pen.

Steven Villines - Likely starts in AAA, could see some bullpen time as well.

Nogosek, Ryan . . . are in the mix.

And Gonsalves was a sneaky add to the rotation depth, also on the 40 and I've not given up on Lockett, even if others have.

They're weak in position players in the upper minors, especially weak in the OF, which is why Matt Adams was a good addition. But the pitching depth isn't that bad. Several of these guys could play roles this year if the 40 man roster doesn't hold up.


It’s such an overreaction I feel. I honestly kept waiting for Dunn to take that leap and while he’s a solid arm, I never felt he was a long term solution in the rotation. I feel like he will ultimately end up in the pen. Kay I began to like a bit as the next rotation piece but even him, I felt he was more of a back of the rotation guy. Basically what Peterson is.

As far as the rest. Listen if any of the horses fall, the Mets will be in trouble anyways, if Kay/Dunn we’re here or not. Kilome I def need to see more, Puck hopefully regains his stuff as he continues to recover, K.Smith...eh don’t really care for him. Payano maybe a good bet over the bunch you listed.


Kay and Dunn are prospects that you should be perfectly happy trading.

If Diaz rebounds and is good for the rest of his time here, and Stroman sticks around and does his thing, then both prospects were cashed in appropriately.

Kelenic was the mistake.

Author:  Metsfan980 [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:28 pm ]
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I'm really excited about Kilome. Scouts raved about his stuff while he was with the Phillies, and the Mets claimed that they made a change with him as soon as they got him to help his control... And his BB rate went down right away.

Now he's had some time to learn more about the game from the sidelines and has a healthy, strong arm. He's going to quickly rise to the majors and be an asset in the big leagues.

Author:  HeyNowHK [ Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

Nah it’s pretty bad.

Author:  CrackedCrystalBall [ Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mets upper minors pitching depth isn't that bad.

Starting pitching depth: Bad
No one is competing for a major league rotation slot.
Peterson is the only prospect in the upper minors with more than an outside shot of being a MLB starter.
I'm not sure if the AAAA depth is great, will have to wait to see how the AAA rotation rounds out.

Relief pitching depth: interesting
Szapucki and Kilome can be useful parts, if they can avoid injuries.
Kevin Smith looks like a lefty specialist who has enough stuff to get a righty or two.
Other arms may have an impact, but shouldn't be expected to be more than filler.

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