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 Post subject: If Harden ever comes off the DL...
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:31 am 
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he's due to come off around 5/11, and if he does, I wonder if you can give me some input as to what my play would be. Here's the roster as it is today:

12-team H2H, standard 5x5 scoring

C- Geovany Soto (ChC)
1B - Alex Gordon (KC)
2B - BJ Upton (TB)
SS - Yuniesky Betancourt (SEA)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (DET)
OF - Carlos Lee (HOU)
OF - Curtis Granderson (DET)
OF - Chris B Young (ARI)
UTIL - Corey Hart (HOU)
B - Michael Bourn, OF (HOU)
B - Paul Konerko, 1B (CWS)
DL - Jimmy Rollins, SS (PHI)

SP - Felix Hernandez (SEA)
SP - Scott Kazmir (TB)
RP - Bobby Jenks (CWS)
RP - Jon Rauch (WAS)
P - Brian Fuentes (COL)
P - Chad Billingsley (LAD)
P - Javier Vazquez (CWS)
B - Ervin Santana (LAA)
B - John Maine (NYM)
B - Aaron Cook (COL)
DL - Rich Harden (OAK)

So my question is, what's my play when Harden comes off the DL? Obviously, I drop Betancourt once Rollins comes off the DL (I only picked him up to start these last couple games until Jimmy comes back), but Harden's a tougher decision. I figure I have 4 options, drop one of Maine, Cook or Billingsley (not particularly in that order,) or stash him on the DL until I get a better idea of what I'm getting from him, and then make a decision.

edit: I should add, for the last 2+ weeks, I've been trying to pull of some 2-1 trades, but every single offer has either been outright rejected or counter offered something absolutely terrible (say, I get Dan Haren and Brad Hawpe, I give up Carlos Lee, Garrett Atkins and Javier Vazquez, wheeeeee...) The only offer that was accepted was Atkins and Tulowitzki for Rollins, so I haven't been able to clear up that last roster spot. Maybe if I keep offering trades, I'll figure something out, but it doesn't look like it.

What would you suggest?


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:42 pm 
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Trade Harden.

The sooner he gets of the DL only means the sooner he heads back onto it. I just don't trust him. I had him last year and it was infuriating.

See if you could find a way to do a Harden-Cook type trade. Cook has been great so far, but he's another injury prone type pitcher and one who is pitching a little over his head, imo. Once the weather warms up here in Colorado I could easily see Cook slowing down a bit. Personally, I hope he maintains but smart money is probably on him evening out.

I'd use those 2 and see if I could get one solid starter. I'd try for Aaron Harang given that he seems to be a little under rated.


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:28 pm 
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I tried to trade Harden before the injury, and there didn't seem to be much interest. I think everyone else was trying to see what they would be getting for him. Nonetheless, I just offered the exact trade you mentioned, Cook & Harden for Harang, and I offered the same two players for Tim Lincecum, because his owner has him on the trade block and says he needs Wins and ERA. We'll see if either end up accepted.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:48 pm 
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Well basically, I'm trying to get the most I can get for Harden and Cook, and either they haven't responded or declined the trade. I had one where I really didn't expect it to go anywhere, and it didn't. I offered Cook and Harden for Carlos Zambrano, and he counteroffered Cook, Harden and BJ Upton for Zambrano and Bill Hall. Nay.

So as it stands, I won't be able to move any of them, so Cook will likely end up my drop if I can't move them. I'm still gonna try, but since Cook was a FA pickup anyway (and I'm not nearly convinced he can keep pitching as well as he's been,) I figure I won't lose much if I drop him. Either way, I think I'm going to keep Harden on the DL through his first start, since it's in Texas and I'm not sure how well he'll pitch right off the bat.

I don't knopw if there are any other owners really worth trading with, most of them (for some reason) don't like making 2-1 deals, because they don't like havnig to drop one of their players :rolleyes:


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:59 pm 
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I'd try to counter that Zambrano package. He's been ace so far this season.

Find an area of need for him where you might have some depth at.


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