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 Post subject: Worldwide/International draft looming?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:27 am 
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10:37am: Major League Baseball could have a worldwide draft in place sooner, rather than later. MLB and the MLB Players Association are pushing to strike a deal for a worldwide draft by June 1st, Eric Fisher of the Sports Business Journal reports (Twitter links).

If the sides don’t reach a deal then expanded international spending restrictions will take effect. The possibility of increased international spending restrictions exists to encourage talks about a worldwide draft.

Amateur players from the U.S., Canada and Puerto Rico are now eligible for baseball’s Rule 4 draft, which takes place each June. Instituted in 1965, the draft does not apply to international players. Instead, amateur players from countries such as Venezuela and the Dominican Republic negotiate bonuses with teams.

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MONDAY, 1:26pm: Rob Manfred, MLB's executive VP, said there's a chance of a deal by June 1st, Liz Mullen of the Sports Business Journal reports (on Twitter). The most likely outcomes are a single global draft or the current draft plus a second draft for international players, Mullen reports.

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TUESDAY: MLB is willing to make "significant concessions" to the MLBPA in order to implement a worldwide draft, sources tell ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (Twitter links). The players could obtain an increase in minimum salary, have a lower service time threshold for arbitration eligibility and more, Olney writes.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/03/m ... draft.html


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 Post subject: Re: Worldwide/International draft looming?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:57 am 
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Pesqueira and David Gonzalez, who also acts as the player's agent, are now involved in a potentially historic lawsuit against Major League Baseball that could change the signing system for Mexican players and complicate efforts for a worldwide draft. At the crux of the fight is whether Pesqueira was willfully aware that he finalized a contract with the Diablos Rojos, or if he and his father were tricked into signing away his free-agent rights -- or if the young player had ever even signed a contract in the first place.


http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/43002870/

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 Post subject: Re: Worldwide/International draft looming?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:10 pm 
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I don't like the idea if it's one draft. But an international draft in addition to the Rule IV could be alright IMO.

I really like the fact that in the NBA and NFL having a high pick means the possibilty of improving quickly. In baseball that's just not gonna be the case and so having 2 drafts where the bottom barrel teams get the best of domestic amatuers as well as the best of the international prospects puts you in much better shape within a few years comparitively.

But you'll really be hurting the game internationally if you have one draft because 16 yr old kids are most likely going to go in the 3rd-6th rounds when pooled with the college players and HS kids.

Example-The kid we recieved from Toronto in the Dickey deal was one of the better IFA's. If you had to chose between him and a HS kid like Phillip Evans (a 15th rounder) right now which would you chose?


And with the slotting system that means many kids that normally would be looking at 1 mil+ bonuses (and in some cases much much more) will be looking at slotted 400-600K offers in those rounds.

It could potentially sabatoge the international market IMO.

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Worldwide/International draft looming?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:23 am 
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I don't like the idea if it's one draft. But an international draft in addition to the Rule IV could be alright IMO.

I really like the fact that in the NBA and NFL having a high pick means the possibilty of improving quickly. In baseball that's just not gonna be the case and so having 2 drafts where the bottom barrel teams get the best of domestic amatuers as well as the best of the international prospects puts you in much better shape within a few years comparitively.

But you'll really be hurting the game internationally if you have one draft because 16 yr old kids are most likely going to go in the 3rd-6th rounds when pooled with the college players and HS kids.

Example-The kid we recieved from Toronto in the Dickey deal was one of the better IFA's. If you had to chose between him and a HS kid like Phillip Evans (a 15th rounder) right now which would you chose?


And with the slotting system that means many kids that normally would be looking at 1 mil+ bonuses (and in some cases much much more) will be looking at slotted 400-600K offers in those rounds.

It could potentially sabatoge the international market IMO.


100% what me and Nmig said on AIM the other night. 1 draft would be pretty terrible. 2 would be "ok". 2 drafts means if the Mets stink they get to pick higher among the international guys. But remember the 1 thing the Mets have done reasonably well is fine cheapo IFA guys who at the very least turn into "prospects". With a draft their names have to be part of the database so teams who aren't great internationally will get a more "even" playing field vs. the Mets advantage. Jorge Arangue believes a BUNCH of Latin American prospects won't even bother with baseball anymore. In PR for example a lot of the best athletes are now playing volleyball and swimming (competitively obviously).

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