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nocedog wrote:
the mlb.com draft page has Duda listed as 6'4" 225 at draft date. It's still a lot more than Boyd, but I think he can definitely put on weight and add some more power.
mlb.com has Boyd listed as David Boyd for some reason
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nocedog wrote:
the mlb.com draft page has Duda listed as 6'4" 225 at draft date. It's still a lot more than Boyd, but I think he can definitely put on weight and add some more power.
mlb.com has Boyd listed as David Boyd for some reason
Not to be picky but he was def listed at 240 on the day of the draft. Here is his draft thread
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Metro2007 wrote:
Duda was 6'5 240 when we drafted him though. Keith Law doesn't seem to believe there is much power projection there.
I would have to thnk that if Boyd can put on 15-20 lbs of muscle as he enters his twenties based on workout regimen and just the body naturally maturing, etc...his power will blossom. All the scouting reports I've read, aside from Law, say he has plus power potential.
A couple years ago from Baseball Factory, the scouting partner for Baseball America:
"A solidly built infielder with plus raw power and a sound RH stroke, Jayce can play either corner infield spot with a quick exchange and release at 3B where he is most valuable. He displayed his power by winning the Under Armour All-America Home Run Contest last summer at Wrigley Field."
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Dog wrote:
Metro2007 wrote:
Duda was 6'5 240 when we drafted him though. Keith Law doesn't seem to believe there is much power projection there.
I would have to thnk that if Boyd can put on 15-20 lbs of muscle as he enters his twenties based on workout regimen and just the body naturally maturing, etc...his power will blossom. All the scouting reports I've read, aside from Law, say he has plus power potential.
A couple years ago from Baseball Factory, the scouting partner for Baseball America:
"A solidly built infielder with plus raw power and a sound RH stroke, Jayce can play either corner infield spot with a quick exchange and release at 3B where he is most valuable. He displayed his power by winning the Under Armour All-America Home Run Contest last summer at Wrigley Field."
Home run derby's mean very, very, very little. Guys can load up and just try and pull the ball down the line. That doesn't have any real reflection on ability to hit for "in game" power. If he's hitting 9 homers over his last 2 years in college odds are the power just isn't very good. I guess we will see but a guy at that size (not a big frame) showing that little power in college doubtful it's ever significantly more. There is a reason a guy who hits for an average that high at a major program is viewed as a 10th round talent. A "couple" of years ago is also an eternity in "projecting" tools.
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At the plate, there are more questions. Boyd has consistently hit for high averages, and true to form he has a simple stroke at the plate. His approach at the plate draws high marks from observers and he's done a great job cutting down his strikeout rate as he's progressed. The big question is power. He has natural strength and long limbs, so scouts have been expecting power from him since high school. He does load his hands to help him drive the bat through the strike zone, generating gap power, but he does a poor job of getting the rest of his body working in concert with his swing. I really can't say I expect him to hit more than 15 home runs in a full season, and that's probably not going to cut it for a first baseman. And while you could overhaul his swing, that may (and probably will) hurt his contact ability.
People love comparisons, and mine for Boyd is a right-handed J.T. Snow: good defensive first basemen who can hit for some average and moderate power. Boyd might not be as good a defender and might hit for higher batting averages, but that seems about right to my eyes. Of course, there's a great chance that his lack of power gets him stuck in the minors or in a bench role instead.
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Metro2007 wrote:
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At the plate, there are more questions. Boyd has consistently hit for high averages, and true to form he has a simple stroke at the plate. His approach at the plate draws high marks from observers and he's done a great job cutting down his strikeout rate as he's progressed. The big question is power. He has natural strength and long limbs, so scouts have been expecting power from him since high school. He does load his hands to help him drive the bat through the strike zone, generating gap power, but he does a poor job of getting the rest of his body working in concert with his swing. I really can't say I expect him to hit more than 15 home runs in a full season, and that's probably not going to cut it for a first baseman. And while you could overhaul his swing, that may (and probably will) hurt his contact ability.
People love comparisons, and mine for Boyd is a right-handed J.T. Snow: good defensive first basemen who can hit for some average and moderate power. Boyd might not be as good a defender and might hit for higher batting averages, but that seems about right to my eyes. Of course, there's a great chance that his lack of power gets him stuck in the minors or in a bench role instead.
I dunno. It's not like we drafted the kid in the 2nd round. He seems to fit the mold of what DePo is trying to do. OBP guy. More walks than Ks. Low K rate in general.
If you look at Duda's body of work at USC, he only had 11 total HRS in 3 years with a line of .280/.378/.468 his junior year compared to Boyd's 19 HRS over 3 years (8 in 2010, 8 in 2011 and 3 this year) and a line of .390/.462/.519 his junior year. If Duda can be a MLB regular, then I see no reason that Boyd can't compete and eventually end up in the Majors down the road. I'm willing to give the kid a chance.
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Dog, To be clear I'm not upset with the pick at all. Seems like he can hit and might be a nice addition. I'm just saying it doesn't sound like there is much power projection there. Maybe he surprises but Duda is a monster of a man. The power projection seemed a lot more realistic there.
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the mlb.com draft page has Duda listed as 6'4" 225 at draft date. It's still a lot more than Boyd, but I think he can definitely put on weight and add some more power.
mlb.com has Boyd listed as David Boyd for some reason
Not to be picky but he was def listed at 240 on the day of the draft. Here is his draft thread
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