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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:00 pm 
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#38 HS Pitcher Jacob Wyrick is apparantly 6'5 and 165 lbs. (can you say projectible?). Apparently he's talked to the Mets and tweeted he's going to college.

Wyrick is from last year's draft.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:08 pm 
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I'll add this...

I expect Planck to be the big prep target and could cost something like $750,000 to sign.

For me, the main guy I want to land is Urena. He's 16, left-handed, 6'5, and has beautiful mechanics.

Cleveland and Haynes have talent too and are both raw, boom-bust types.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:02 pm 
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Reds reportedly pay Okey $2M (.5M overslot). They are also paying Taylor Trammell like $1.4M over, so that is where the Senzel savings is going.

That $2M is right about what the 31 slot $ was however, so that couldn't be the reason the Mets passed.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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THEME OF THEIR DRAFT: Sometimes it pays to go to school. The Mets used their first 11 picks on college players, acquiring a solid mix of pitchers with upside and track record, bat-first power conference performers and up-the-middle defenders with histories of hitting. Overall, the Mets played it very safe, but they could see impact from first-round Boston College righthander Justin Dunn.
UPSIDE GUY: Prep righthander Matt Cleveland (12) has a physical frame and projectable stuff. If they can sign him, the Mets got a good value there.
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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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This is what I've come to realize.

If we picked 40 high school players, I would be happy.

But if we didn't sign any of them, and 3 years later we picked the exact same 40 players, I would be unhappy.

For me the journey is more interesting than the destination.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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Metro2007 wrote:
THEME OF THEIR DRAFT: Sometimes it pays to go to school. The Mets used their first 11 picks on college players, acquiring a solid mix of pitchers with upside and track record, bat-first power conference performers and up-the-middle defenders with histories of hitting. Overall, the Mets played it very safe, but they could see impact from first-round Boston College righthander Justin Dunn.
UPSIDE GUY: Prep righthander Matt Cleveland (12) has a physical frame and projectable stuff. If they can sign him, the Mets got a good value there.
Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/re ... PemLqom.99


Yeah, it's a mixed bag. Anyone looking for a HS position player to get excited about and follow for the next few years, you'll have to wait till next year (only to likely be disappointed again but that's a story for another day). There were a few prep arms they took in the teens that could develop but none seem like elite talents and so the dev path will be long and arduous... and that's if they lock any of them up. Between rds 11-32, they grabbed 9 prep arms (8 RHers), and I'd be surprised if they were able to sign 3 of them, but it's kind of the nature of the beast.

And of course there were a bunch of potentially interesting college arms taken and this is where the org's strong suit so I defer to their expertise on the pitching side. I assume a few will develop into ML arms.

On the position side, though there won't be any prep kids to root for as I said above, there do appear to be a few interesting college players they took, aside from Alonso and Tiberi in rds 2 and 3, who are both interesting, if possibly overdrafts. I would say that Gene Cone (10) and Jacob Zanon (15) both look like semi-interesting OFers, which is what really interests me. In addition, Jay Jabs looks like a possibly interesting 3Bman taken in rd 17, another LHed hitter btw. Nick Sergakis looks like another undersized 2Bman, but he played at a major program and hit for plenty of XBs so he doesn't play little.

And then there is Ian Strom who evidently plays a sick CF, is the rare R/L but who may not hit... supposed to be a high character guy. Sounds like he'll be a crowd favorite.

They took a few prep position players late but will likely have no shot at any of them - Cortes, Pence & Fryman. Aside from not pushing any chips in on the prep side earlier in the draft, the other deficiency of this draft was failing to grab one of the top catchers in a draft that appeared to be pretty deep in quality Cs. The first one grabbed was Dan Rizzie in rd 13 who was not in the BA500.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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Gene Cone looks RAIL thin with close to zero pop and isn't a base stealer. What am I missing with him?

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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Cone is 22 in Sept, 6'0 175 with 5 career homers, 24 steals over 154 college games (3 homers, 7 steals this year). If you are saying interesting in maybe one day he's a 4-5th OF then sure I guess he's "interesting" but it seems like a very, very limited upside player to me.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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R Nitelight wrote:
This is what I've come to realize.

If we picked 40 high school players, I would be happy.

But if we didn't sign any of them, and 3 years later we picked the exact same 40 players, I would be unhappy.

For me the journey is more interesting than the destination.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Draft Day(s) Discussion Thread
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Cone is 22 in Sept, 6'0 175 with 5 career homers, 24 steals over 154 college games (3 homers, 7 steals this year). If you are saying interesting in maybe one day he's a 4-5th OF then sure I guess he's "interesting" but it seems like a very, very limited upside player to me.



Interest shrinks the closer he gets to his slot value.


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Metro2007 wrote:
Cone is 22 in Sept, 6'0 175 with 5 career homers, 24 steals over 154 college games (3 homers, 7 steals this year). If you are saying interesting in maybe one day he's a 4-5th OF then sure I guess he's "interesting" but it seems like a very, very limited upside player to me.

He's a top of the order OFer who got on base nearly half his PAs this season. That's interesting to me.


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