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Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:27 pm

I'm pretty amazed at how much they spent on Day 3. Even beyond the two overslots, they signed a ton of guys for the full 125k or close to it. That's pretty rare for any team this side of the Dodgers.

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:15 pm

So, anyone want to do a favorite 10 in this draft, or should that be another thread?

1) Peterson
2) Vientos
3) Brodey
4) Winaker
5) Hutchison
6) Dibrell
7-10 (in no particular order, Schneider & 3 HS pitchers - don't know which 3).

After the first 2, I'm basically guessing. And I'm perhaps wrong in my silly optimism for the 2 Stanford bats, but I'm hoping the mets nailed the day 2 college bat thing for a change. They have to get one eventually, right?

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:20 pm

ilikeike29 wrote:I'm pretty amazed at how much they spent on Day 3. Even beyond the two overslots, they signed a ton of guys for the full 125k or close to it. That's pretty rare for any team this side of the Dodgers.


I have to wonder, if a team picks 15 HS arms on day 3 and signs 10, that's 1.25 million. That's nothing in the total budget of a baseball team. OK, it's not nothing but it's not much.

I would think a lot more teams would go that route, unless someone does a study and finds that day 3 HS arms are no more likely to succeed than day 3 college guys. But on the surface, I'd think collecting HS arms in day 3 is a smart play and I'd think more teams should do it, at least in a money-ball, smart way to spend the budget kind of way.

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:40 pm

LTKfRGM wrote:
ilikeike29 wrote:I'm pretty amazed at how much they spent on Day 3. Even beyond the two overslots, they signed a ton of guys for the full 125k or close to it. That's pretty rare for any team this side of the Dodgers.


I have to wonder, if a team picks 15 HS arms on day 3 and signs 10, that's 1.25 million. That's nothing in the total budget of a baseball team. OK, it's not nothing but it's not much.

I would think a lot more teams would go that route, unless someone does a study and finds that day 3 HS arms are no more likely to succeed than day 3 college guys. But on the surface, I'd think collecting HS arms in day 3 is a smart play and I'd think more teams should do it, at least in a money-ball, smart way to spend the budget kind of way.

That's easy for you to say, but these teams set Day 3 budgets, generally a directive from ownership. Most teams have a set amount of money to spend on their Day 3 picks and cannot just sign everyone to the max.

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:13 pm

ilikeike29 wrote:
That's easy for you to say, but these teams set Day 3 budgets, generally a directive from ownership. Most teams have a set amount of money to spend on their Day 3 picks and cannot just sign everyone to the max.


Oh, I totally get that, but the question remains whether that's wise resource allocation.

I imagine the conversations go something like this.

Hey Howard, can let me spend $240 million to sign Robinson Cano

Howard - "Sure".

a few months go by

Hey Howard, there are some nice HS pitchers still out there in the draft, can you raise my day 3 budget from 1 million to 1.5 million.

Howard - "Are you crazy? Keep it under a million."

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:16 pm

LTKfRGM wrote:
ilikeike29 wrote:I'm pretty amazed at how much they spent on Day 3. Even beyond the two overslots, they signed a ton of guys for the full 125k or close to it. That's pretty rare for any team this side of the Dodgers.


I have to wonder, if a team picks 15 HS arms on day 3 and signs 10, that's 1.25 million. That's nothing in the total budget of a baseball team. OK, it's not nothing but it's not much.

I would think a lot more teams would go that route, unless someone does a study and finds that day 3 HS arms are no more likely to succeed than day 3 college guys. But on the surface, I'd think collecting HS arms in day 3 is a smart play and I'd think more teams should do it, at least in a money-ball, smart way to spend the budget kind of way.


10 of them have to sign too... day 3 is tough to sign HS guys

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:27 pm

LTKfRGM wrote:So, anyone want to do a favorite 10 in this draft, or should that be another thread?

1) Peterson
2) Vientos
3) Brodey
4) Winaker
5) Hutchison
6) Dibrell
7-10 (in no particular order, Schneider & 3 HS pitchers - don't know which 3).

After the first 2, I'm basically guessing. And I'm perhaps wrong in my silly optimism for the 2 Stanford bats, but I'm hoping the mets nailed the day 2 college bat thing for a change. They have to get one eventually, right?


http://www.nyfuturestars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44383

Re: 2017 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status

Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:42 am

LTKfRGM wrote:
ilikeike29 wrote:
That's easy for you to say, but these teams set Day 3 budgets, generally a directive from ownership. Most teams have a set amount of money to spend on their Day 3 picks and cannot just sign everyone to the max.


Oh, I totally get that, but the question remains whether that's wise resource allocation.

I imagine the conversations go something like this.

Hey Howard, can let me spend $240 million to sign Robinson Cano

Howard - "Sure".

a few months go by

Hey Howard, there are some nice HS pitchers still out there in the draft, can you raise my day 3 budget from 1 million to 1.5 million.

Howard - "Are you crazy? Keep it under a million."


Howard has seen Robinson Cano be a near (or at) HOF level player, and understands that he brings merchandise revenue and ticket/stadium revenue, if not playoff revenue, etc.

Howard knows that of those extra 2 HS pitchers you'd like to take and sign, its a, what, 1% chance they ever come close to Robinson Cano in terms of impact for his franchise.

Maybe Howard is the kind of guy who is gonna go through $10 down at a sportsbook on the Nets winning it all next year, because he gets a potentially massive payoff on that small $ bet. But most Howards, if they are so inclined, probably put a way higher dollar amount on the Cavs or Rockets or Warriors, know what I mean?
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