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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:24 pm 
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I was hoping for 1.5, but can't argue with the kid for targeting 2..... that said there's not a shot in hell I think any HS catcher in this draft was worth a 2.1 mil pool-buster. And I thought the pundits were underrating Melendez all season.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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its come out that he wants 2 million?


As far as I know, nothing has come out officially, but that he wants first round money isn't crazy speculation. It's entirely possible. If the Mets had talks with him about taking him at #20 (and they probably did), then they probably had a figure already worked out and probably over 2 million.

Him falling to 59 hurts his standing somewhat, but not all that much. The bigger issue is that the Mets are clearly limited in what they can offer. Both sides have fall-back options. He can go to college. Miami Hurricanes isn't a bad option for him to re-enter the draft in 3 years. Mets, if they can't sign him, probably sign Labas and they get the #60 pick next year in a deep draft.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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IlikeIKE wrote:
its come out that he wants 2 million?


As far as I know, nothing has come out officially, but that he wants first round money isn't crazy speculation. It's entirely possible. If the Mets had talks with him about taking him at #20 (and they probably did), then they probably had a figure already worked out and probably over 2 million.

Him falling to 59 hurts his standing somewhat, but not all that much. The bigger issue is that the Mets are clearly limited in what they can offer. Both sides have fall-back options. He can go to college. Miami Hurricanes isn't a bad option for him to re-enter the draft in 3 years. Mets, if they can't sign him, probably sign Labas and they get the #60 pick next year in a deep draft.


can't see someone turning away 1 million, I know it has happened. but thats to enticing for me


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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IlikeIKE wrote:

can't see someone turning away 1 million, I know it has happened. but thats to enticing for me


The mets signed 5 college seniors (a redshirt Jr or two I guess), picks 6-10 to increase their odds of signing Vientos. I'd turn down a million if I was him and I think the mets planned all along to go overslot for him when he was there at 59.

The question is, can the mets get him for 1.5-1.7 and will he meet them at that number or will they need more?

Gotta wait & see how it works out. There's no way to know what the negotiations are like, but I'd guess 1.5 as a bare-bones minimum for discussion, and the negotiations are probably around numbers even higher.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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Karsten Whitsen. Biggest moron in a long long time re: draft


That's the risk. In Whitsen's defense, if he hadn't gotten injured in 2013 he'd have probably gotten the 2.7 million he asked the Padres for. Maybe more. But, that's the risk these players take saying no. I think Vientos will sign but I also think he won't come cheap. Mets will offer him nearly everything. I'm still in the 1.8-2.0 guess range. Mets will negotiate tough with everyone else.

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Not going to lie, I've got a bad feeling about this. $2 million or more seems like a pretty significant chunk of the bonus pool. And I really, really like Vientos. Hoping the Mets did their research here...



It's not like they've delved into it so far.

And unless he lied I'm sure the Mets have a figure they can work with.


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But it can be absorbed pretty easily. Slot for Peterson is nearly $3 million. $380K went to Dibrell. Somewhere above that number will go to Brodey (unless he doesn't sign, which costs us $550K). Goes without saying that picks 5-10 really can't expect much money in order to make this work (not to mention any money reserved to pay picks 11-40).


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 02, Pick 059 3b Mark Vientos (HS)
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LTKfRGM wrote:
tejdog1 wrote:
Karsten Whitsen. Biggest moron in a long long time re: draft


That's the risk. In Whitsen's defense, if he hadn't gotten injured in 2013 he'd have probably gotten the 2.7 million he asked the Padres for. Maybe more. But, that's the risk these players take saying no. I think Vientos will sign but I also think he won't come cheap. Mets will offer him nearly everything. I'm still in the 1.8-2.0 guess range. Mets will negotiate tough with everyone else.


Wasn't there a guy a few years ago that just kept getting drafted every year and refusing to sign, ended up in indy ball.


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2nd-rder Mark Vientos signs w/@Mets for $1.5 mil (pick 59 value=$1,094,700). HS SS can move to 3b and fit offensive profile there @MLBDraft

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Vientos just signed for $1.5M. Awesome.


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