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 Post subject: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:17 pm 
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RHP Cannon Chadwich (80 name, at least)
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4th senior in a row. What a strategy

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:33 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277
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They've dropped the values of the later picks, round 10 worked down to about 150 K last year, 131 K this year.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277
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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277
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I am actually kind of happy with this, as I called the front office out last year for giving away too many slot bonuses to guys that were just as likely to help the big league team one day as these specialized senior signs.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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Drafting a Cannon is always good.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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I would have liked to see us take a legitimate player another round or two deeper before tanking, but thats the price of essentially getting two first rounders, and still wanting to play at the deep end of the pool past round 10.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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He was born in Paris.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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LTKfRGM wrote:
He was born in Paris.


Its ok..... Paris, Texas..... phewwww that was a close one


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
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tejdog1 wrote:

4th senior in a row. What a strategy


Some basic math.

Rounds 6-10, 237.6, 186.2, 153.4, 139.7, 132.3 5 rounds combined, 849.2 combined, lets say $850K to round.

Lets say the team wants to sign 2 high priced guys (Colin Holderman - 400K, Jake Simon 400 K and Matt Cleveland, 300K.) and they like a handful of guys at 10K each - lets say 5 guys.

8 picks, 5 guys for 10 K each, 3 guys for 400, 400 and 300. 5 slots totalling 850K.

If they sign the 5 guys each for 10K rounds 5-10, that's 50K out of the 850 K, leaving 800 to go over, 300 over for Holderman, 300 over for Simon, 200 over for Planck.

Now, if they want to sign the best players first, say, Simon round 6, Holderman round 7, Cleveland round 8, then the 5 guys for 10K.

They've gone 172 over for Simon, 214 over for Holerman and 147 over for Cleveland, before saving 130 and 122 off round 9 and 10. This strategy, they're 270K over budget and that's not good.

The risk with waiting for round 11 to start drafting Simons and Holdermans is that they might be gone by then. The upside to waiting to round 11, in this scenario, $270K more spending money, added to the 100K minimum, that's a $370 K signing. in exchange for going 5 college seniors rounds 6-10.

It's a win if there's a lot of depth in the draft. If there's 3-5 guys you like still there on day 3, then sign the college seniors day 2 and you have more money. If the guys you want are gone by day 3 - the plan backfired.

Personally I think the mets might be onto something signing 5 college seniors on day 2. They found an untapped market and they saved cash for high-school picks on day 3.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 NYM Draft: Round 09, Pick 277 RHP Cannon Chadwick
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:18 pm 
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LTKfRGM wrote:
Personally I think the mets might be onto something signing 5 college seniors on day 2. They found an untapped market and they saved cash for high-school picks on day 3.


Teams have done that for 5 years now. They aren't on to anything new here.


And I'm not for or against this strategy.

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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