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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:35 pm 
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At no point in the next 5 years will our farm system be as strong, or churn out as many good/great players as it did from 2012-2016.

Some serious nonsense there.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:38 pm 
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Is there any chance they’ll get Fowler and/or Maldonado?


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:01 pm 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
Is there any chance they’ll get Fowler and/or Maldonado?



If they will sign for $125K or less.

I would think Maldonado would be the more likely option.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:00 am 
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underdog wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
Is there any chance they’ll get Fowler and/or Maldonado?



If they will sign for $125K or less.

I would think Maldonado would be the more likely option.


Hey, they have $23,000 extra according to the math!

I was hoping for Maldonado and Jace Beck of the remaining guys...not sure if either will happen.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:20 am 
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jdawginsc wrote:
underdog wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
Is there any chance they’ll get Fowler and/or Maldonado?



If they will sign for $125K or less.

I would think Maldonado would be the more likely option.


Hey, they have $23,000 extra according to the math!

I was hoping for Maldonado and Jace Beck of the remaining guys...not sure if either will happen.


For some reason I feel, if anyone else signs, it will be Dilan Lawson.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:03 am 
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tejdog1 wrote:
At no point in the next 5 years will our farm system be as strong, or churn out as many good/great players as it did from 2012-2016.


Why 2012-2016?

Mets have called up some solid players, most recently Alonso & McNeil and possibly Dom Smith and maybe Nimmo as well, all in the last 12 months (bit longer for Nimmo) and Rosario, the Jury is still out, but he was around that time as well.

They had a nice stretch of callups 2012-2016, but I don't think it was so outstanding it can't be matched. Harvey, Thor, deGrom, Matz, Conforto . . . and . . . who am I missing? Wheeler has only been good for 1/2 a season so I don't want to include him. That's most of them. It's not all that outstanding for a 5 year period. Certainly not unmatchable.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:36 pm 
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HeyNowHK wrote:
tejdog1 wrote:
At no point in the next 5 years will our farm system be as strong, or churn out as many good/great players as it did from 2012-2016.

Some serious nonsense there.


Really dude?
Harvey
deGrom
Syndergaard
Wheeler (was very solid 2013/2014 before TJS)
Conforto
Nimmo
Rosario
McNeil was there
Alonso was there

How many All Stars in that group? Like... within 5-6 years we hit on so SO many prospects. We hit the prospect jackpot, like... best outcomes on so many guys. You think that's happening again?

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I find this talk about Kelenic comical. He's a 19 year old kid who hit .253 at Kingsport
and struck out once a game and people are talking like he's the second coming. Get real people. When you have a chance to get the best reliever in the game who's only 24 and give up Kelenic in the deal, you MAKE that deal. Stop with the nonsense.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:07 pm 
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I think 2021-2022 will be great years for prospects and former prospects...

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:28 pm 
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31/40 guys signed. Nice

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:37 pm 
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tejdog1 wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
tejdog1 wrote:
At no point in the next 5 years will our farm system be as strong, or churn out as many good/great players as it did from 2012-2016.

Some serious nonsense there.


Really dude?
Harvey
deGrom
Syndergaard
Wheeler (was very solid 2013/2014 before TJS)
Conforto
Nimmo
Rosario
McNeil was there
Alonso was there

How many All Stars in that group? Like... within 5-6 years we hit on so SO many prospects. We hit the prospect jackpot, like... best outcomes on so many guys. You think that's happening again?


Other graduates during that span who've had fairly signifiant MLB success: Matz, Lugo, Familia, Lagares, d'Arnaud, Flores, Mejia, Fulmer, McHugh

A very fruitful period, certainly. Whereas if you look at the previous 5 years (2007–11) the highlights are Murphy, Duda, Gee, Niese, Tejada, Parnell, Ike.....that's a wasteland in comparison, burt it's probably closer to "normal" farm system production for the Mets, at least historically.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:07 pm 
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tejdog1 wrote:
HeyNowHK wrote:
tejdog1 wrote:
At no point in the next 5 years will our farm system be as strong, or churn out as many good/great players as it did from 2012-2016.

Some serious nonsense there.


Really dude?
Harvey
deGrom
Syndergaard
Wheeler (was very solid 2013/2014 before TJS)
Conforto
Nimmo
Rosario
McNeil was there
Alonso was there

How many All Stars in that group? Like... within 5-6 years we hit on so SO many prospects. We hit the prospect jackpot, like... best outcomes on so many guys. You think that's happening again?

As if you have any clue what the system will produce over the next 5 years.

Right now any of these 13 have the ceiling to turn into impact MLers: Mauricio, Vientos, Newton, Gimenez, SWR, Peterson, Kay, Baty, Allan, Wolf, Alvarez, Kilome, Puck. Add a couple of players who they may acquire in the next month and that's a nice foundation of talent (and I'm prob leaving out a few deserving players like Mangum, Haggerty, Acosta, Otanez, Valdez, Palmer etc). Yeah, most of the talent in the system skews young, but that and picking high again next season (and the high $ pool that comes with that) means the system is on the upswing.

So it's fair to say the system is weak right now, but we don't know how productive it's going to be over the next 5 yrs.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 New York Mets Draft Selections & Signing Status
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:16 am 
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My point is we had a very fruitful period where the farm produced vastly above average hits. If that high rate normalizes, which ... it probably will, we're producing nowhere NEAR what we did from 2012-2016. And if we didn't win with that core, what makes you think we'll win with the next one?

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matlack72 wrote:
I find this talk about Kelenic comical. He's a 19 year old kid who hit .253 at Kingsport
and struck out once a game and people are talking like he's the second coming. Get real people. When you have a chance to get the best reliever in the game who's only 24 and give up Kelenic in the deal, you MAKE that deal. Stop with the nonsense.


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