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 Post subject: turn on your fav news channel/obama and russia agree
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:37 am 
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on lowering the number of nuclear warheads and obama gets russia to allow us to use their air space to use against afghanastan!

nuclear warhead number is down for 2250 to 1500 and the more important issue is the afghan issue.

i'll post a link when it's available.

i think this is good news!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:26 pm 
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/06/ ... index.html

this is a fair article that shows the positives and negatives of the first part of the agreement.

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I just think it's hilarious that we are talking 1500 nukes like it is a small number. That is still more than enough to destroy the world many, many times. Now don't get me wrong I am for having nukes I just think its funny how the media talks about 1500 like it is a little number but baby steps I guess.


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Hilltop wrote:
I just think it's hilarious that we are talking like 1500 nukes like it is a small number. That is still more than enough to destroy the world many, many times. Now don't get me wrong I am for having nukes I just think its funny how the media talks about 1500 like it is a little number but baby steps I guess.


Yeah, I was just going to post this. It's pretty absurd. And that's only between Russia and the US, let alone the stockpiles of the France, Britain, China, Israel, Pakistan, and India (rogue states and rumors [Taiwan] aside).

But hey, at least South Africa doesn't have them anymore.

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When the aliens come from the moon, we might need a lot of nukes to blow up their spaceships, and at least two to blow up the mothership.













(Sorry, watched Independence Day last night)


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hotlyds87 wrote:
When the aliens come from the moon, we might need a lot of nukes to blow up their spaceships, and at least two to blow up the mothership.













(Sorry, watched Independence Day last night)


Or when a giant asteroid is set to blow up Earth and we need Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck to save the world!


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Hilltop wrote:
hotlyds87 wrote:
When the aliens come from the moon, we might need a lot of nukes to blow up their spaceships, and at least two to blow up the mothership.













(Sorry, watched Independence Day last night)


Or when a giant asteroid is set to blow up Earth and we need Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck to save the world!


Both certainly valid points. I suppose lowering the # of nukes in the world is a good thing, but as noted, it wouldn't take that many to destroy the world anyway. You can stockpile all the nukes you want, but the fact of the mater remains that in the event of some sort global nuclear conflict you won't even get a chance to use them all.

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As long as we use the one's we've got to protect the RoC and the RoK I'll be happy.

/I hope I never live to see the day when a nuke is used.

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maybe the 2nd part that they are allowing us to use their airspace for afghanastan is the real story.

the jokes are funny though.

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maybe the 2nd part that they are allowing us to use their airspace for afghanastan is the real story.


My concern with this is that it might involve some quid pro quo involving ignoring Russian war crimes in Chechnya. Not that there's much the US could do about those war crimes, but it's still a concern.

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This is being praised in quarters as diverse as Joe Cirincione, president of the Ploughshares Fund, which works for disarmament, and by Henry Kissinger.

Cirincione calls it a first step, but a very important first step.

Obama and Medvedev have an agreement to open negotiations for even more significant reductions in the nuclear arsenal.

Another important aspect of today's agreement is that the Russians will act to secure existing nukes.

Security for all the nukes left over from the former Soviet Union has been a major concern based on fears that the weapons, many of which were or are unaccounted for, could fall into the hands of terrorist groups.


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Chico wrote:
Security for all the nukes left over from the former Soviet Union has been a major concern based on fears that the weapons, many of which were or are unaccounted for, could fall into the hands of terrorist groups.


Huge issue, and a big step in the right direction. My worry is that the damage has already been done in that regard.

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