MESSAGE BOARDS TOOLS:  Search | Members | User Control Panel |   | Login 


All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]

Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:57 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Franchise Player

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:02 pm
Posts: 3297
Location: Chicago, IL
Davy Jones of Monkees fame died this morning. I used to watch the Monkees all the time on TV when I was a kid. Only 66. Sad.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/109 ... at-66.html

_________________
"You hang out with nice people, you get nice friends. You hang out with smart people, you get smart friends. You hang out with yo-yo people, you get yo-yo friends. You see, it's simple mathematics."

"It's time to be a MAN!"
- Johan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:56 am 
Offline
Veteran Presence

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:33 pm
Posts: 4925
Sad news indeed. The Monkees and frontman Davy Jones hit a 'chord' with me a a youth. Surrounded by the sounds of Rhythm and Blues in our inner city apartment we would turn on the TV those Monday evenings after homework and watch the 'prefab four'. The show was a unique blend of comedy, art, and singing. Davy Jones became our favorite Monkee with Mickey Dolenz a close second.

A unique show, a unique group with a unique frontman. It hurts to see pieces of one's youth go. Prayers go out to his children


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:44 pm 
User avatar
Offline
MVP

Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:30 pm
Posts: 2832
Location: Medford, NY
With all the conversation about the Monkees since Davy's passing, I've discovered that I was probably the only Mike Nesmith fan in the world.

RIP Davy

_________________
Let's Go Mets!
Gil Hodges Should Be In The Hall Of Fame


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:25 pm 
User avatar
Offline
NYFS Staff

Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:39 pm
Posts: 22630
Location: Jersey City
doowop14 wrote:
With all the conversation about the Monkees since Davy's passing, I've discovered that I was probably the only Mike Nesmith fan in the world.

RIP Davy


I hadn't given Nesmith much thought from the time "The Monkees" went into syndication until he surfaced again with a program called "Popclips".

My family in Connecticut had just gotten cable (wasn't available before in the relatively, thinly-populated area I grew up in) and "Popclips" was a program on the Nickelodeon channel.

It showed music videos, which I'd never seen before, either.

Research reveals that Nesmith came up with the idea as a new means of marketing pop artists and the idea was slightly tweaked not long after and launched as MTV.

If I remember correctly, videos of a couple of Nesmith's solo performances were part of the rotation on "Popclips".

_________________
Hats off to Sandy. Hats off to the Wilpons. And don't forget Yoenis Cespedes, a star who wanted to stay a Met.

--------------------------------------------------------
You can PayPal donations to donations@nyfuturestars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:02 pm 
User avatar
Online
NYFS Staff

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:37 am
Posts: 23311
Location: charleston, sc
It always befuddled me that Davey Jones was generally acknowledged as the lead singer, but I think Dolenz probably sang lead on more songs.

Monkees and Lancelot Link were probably my favorite shows from the period, and it was frustrating trying to find either on TV in syndication...

RIP Davey, you were the epitome of nerdy cool...

_________________
"The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed." Steven Biko


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:21 pm 
User avatar
Offline
Legend of NYFS

Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:45 pm
Posts: 24717
Location: Now Leaving Schenectady
doowoop, I actually think for younger generations (as in the people who were introduced to re-runs of The Monkees on MTV and Nick at Nite) Mike was the favorite. For people who became familiar with the Monkees' backstory, Nesmith being the most vocal in trying to give the band more creative freedom, I think Mike was respected. Plus I personally thought he was the funniest on the show. Anybody who just saw him as the grump who never showed up to the reunions, needs to watch the episodes and see a guy who was very dedicated. He and Mickey were my favorites but I totally understood the Davy fandom because my mother was of the Davy fandom.

Davy was the first to get a contract with the show and was built as the lead for both the band and the show but Mickey had all of the hits on lead vocal which caused a rivalry. Then came, "I'm A Believer" and Davy finally got his signature song. Davy was still the favorite for the girls but the band and the mainstream seemed to edge toward Mickey's vocals.

Now if you told me Davy would be the first to die, given Peter's health problems and Mickey not looking anything like Mickey anymore, I would have thought you were kidding.

RIP

I'll just leave the song here that I played on a loop.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:28 pm 
User avatar
Offline
MVP

Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:30 pm
Posts: 2832
Location: Medford, NY
Prospectus wrote:
doowoop, I actually think for younger generations (as in the people who were introduced to re-runs of The Monkees on MTV and Nick at Nite) Mike was the favorite. For people who became familiar with the Monkees' backstory, Nesmith being the most vocal in trying to give the band more creative freedom, I think Mike was respected. Plus I personally thought he was the funniest on the show. Anybody who just saw him as the grump who never showed up to the reunions, needs to watch the episodes and see a guy who was very dedicated. He and Mickey were my favorites but I totally understood the Davy fandom because my mother was of the Davy fandom.

Davy was the first to get a contract with the show and was built as the lead for both the band and the show but Mickey had all of the hits on lead vocal which caused a rivalry. Then came, "I'm A Believer" and Davy finally got his signature song. Davy was still the favorite for the girls but the band and the mainstream seemed to edge toward Mickey's vocals.

Now if you told me Davy would be the first to die, given Peter's health problems and Mickey not looking anything like Mickey anymore, I would have thought you were kidding.

RIP



Having been a musician, I saw that Mike had the chops. He wasn't just making believe. Even Peter, who was an excellent musician in his own rite, was playing around for the cameras. Mike seemed to take the faux music seriously. I guess that I just respected what Mike was doing more than the others. Plus, I thought he was actually funnier than the rest. While the others just clowned around, Mike seemed serious about his role and seemed more accomplish.

Funny you should mention about the "front man" thing. I once compiled a list of who sang lead on what song on all the albums through "Head".

Mickey sang lead on twenty five
Davy had twenty three leads.
Surprisingly, Mike had seventeen songs.
Pete only had a hand full.

But it seems odd that the least musically talented (while Micky couldn't play the drums at first, he was a passable guitarist) was passed off as the group's "Front Man". I guess the creators merely visualized them as actors in a comedy show who were supposed to be a musical group but not real musicians. Davy was a legitimate actor in the theater. So they probably assumed he would carry the show. BTW, I assumed you meant Daydream Believer as Davy's defining song.

_________________
Let's Go Mets!
Gil Hodges Should Be In The Hall Of Fame


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:27 pm 
User avatar
Online
NYFS Staff

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:37 am
Posts: 23311
Location: charleston, sc
"Daydream Believer" was Davey. "I'm a believer" (Neil Diamond) was Mickey.

Last Train to Clarkesville
The Monkees
Steppin Stone
For Petes Sake
Pleasant Valley Sunday
I'm a believer
Mary, Mary

Shades of Grey
Daydream Belieiver
Valleri
Look-out Here comes tomorrow

Interestingly, the best song might just be the Nesmith, "You just may be the one"

Listen to "Writing Wrongs" -- reminiscent of "The Wall" in a few places.

_________________
"The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed." Steven Biko


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: RIP Davy Jones
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:21 am 
User avatar
Offline
Legend of NYFS

Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:45 pm
Posts: 24717
Location: Now Leaving Schenectady
doowop14 wrote:
Prospectus wrote:
doowoop, I actually think for younger generations (as in the people who were introduced to re-runs of The Monkees on MTV and Nick at Nite) Mike was the favorite. For people who became familiar with the Monkees' backstory, Nesmith being the most vocal in trying to give the band more creative freedom, I think Mike was respected. Plus I personally thought he was the funniest on the show. Anybody who just saw him as the grump who never showed up to the reunions, needs to watch the episodes and see a guy who was very dedicated. He and Mickey were my favorites but I totally understood the Davy fandom because my mother was of the Davy fandom.

Davy was the first to get a contract with the show and was built as the lead for both the band and the show but Mickey had all of the hits on lead vocal which caused a rivalry. Then came, "I'm A Believer" and Davy finally got his signature song. Davy was still the favorite for the girls but the band and the mainstream seemed to edge toward Mickey's vocals.

Now if you told me Davy would be the first to die, given Peter's health problems and Mickey not looking anything like Mickey anymore, I would have thought you were kidding.

RIP



Having been a musician, I saw that Mike had the chops. He wasn't just making believe. Even Peter, who was an excellent musician in his own rite, was playing around for the cameras. Mike seemed to take the faux music seriously. I guess that I just respected what Mike was doing more than the others. Plus, I thought he was actually funnier than the rest. While the others just clowned around, Mike seemed serious about his role and seemed more accomplish.

Funny you should mention about the "front man" thing. I once compiled a list of who sang lead on what song on all the albums through "Head".

Mickey sang lead on twenty five
Davy had twenty three leads.
Surprisingly, Mike had seventeen songs.
Pete only had a hand full.

But it seems odd that the least musically talented (while Micky couldn't play the drums at first, he was a passable guitarist) was passed off as the group's "Front Man". I guess the creators merely visualized them as actors in a comedy show who were supposed to be a musical group but not real musicians. Davy was a legitimate actor in the theater. So they probably assumed he would carry the show. BTW, I assumed you meant Daydream Believer as Davy's defining song.


I did mean "Daydream Believer".

People forget that Davy was a legitimate Broadway stage presence, having just spent a lot of his life associated with the Artful Dodger role in Oliver! and had a solo career pre-Monkees. Considering the show was meant to be a parody The Beatles, why not get the cute guy who had wholesome, reads young quality that girls will immediately get attached to watching and hearing? I mean both Mickey and Davy had backgrounds in show business while people like Stephen Stills (at the time already had thinning hair and terrible teeth) got rejected from the show, it was obvious they just wanted to find a 'voice' who had a certain look.

"You May Just Be The One" was the first they recorded together as a group written by themselves, of course, Davy was not present for those sessions and there was a rift. Davy appeared to side with Don Kirshner (and why wouldn't he, he was groomed to be the star) . But Kirshner consistently went behind their backs over what songs were to appear and the moment Mike's song got cut in favor of another churned out pop song that they just sang, it was over.

Also note that Pavel Chekov in Star Trek was cast and created with the intention to have a Davy Jones look-alike which they got with Walter Koenig.

"Steppin' Stone" is my favorite (and I love all of the punk rock covers) followed by "Valleri", "Pleasant Valley Sunday", "The Porpoise Song", "Randy Scouse Git", "What Am I Doing Hangin' 'Round" and "Last Train to Clarksville".


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group


SUPPORT NYFS VIA OUR NETWORK OF SITES: FIND AN AA MEETING | FIND A JOB NEAR YOU | SUICIDE DEPRESSION ADDICTION HELP | BOOK REVIEWS EDITORIAL | LOCAL DOCTORS HOSPITAL EMERGENCY CARE | HOME REPAIR CONTRACTOR BUILDER AC HEAT | LOCAL LIVE MUSIC OPEN MIC JAM | FIND YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND WHERE TO VOTE | WOMEN VETERANS HELP SUPPORT AND RESOURCES | THE SOULCIALISTS LIVE LOCAL PIANO MUSIC TREASURE COAST | PET FRIENDLY PARKS HOTELS | SOLAR WIND RENEWABLE POWER | FILE TAX RETURN ATTORNEY | 4G SEO SMART PHONES TABLET WEB | BIRTHDAY PARTY RENTAL CHARACTERS | HOMES APARTMENTS FOR SALE OR RENT NEAR YOU | SPORT COURT GYM FITNESS CLUB TRACK FIELD | GOLF BEACH RESORT HOTELS RESTAURANTS BED BREAKFAST | HEALTH LIFE AUTO HOME INSURANCE QUOTE | METRO BUS TRAIN SUBWAY AIRPORT HELIPORT | VETERAN TIPS CRAFT DIY RECIPES | ATM BRANCH CONSOLIDATION STUDENT CREDIT LOAN RATES | LOCAL NEWS AND RSS FEEDS | CHRISTMAS BLACK FRIDAY BACK TO SCHOOL SALE | LATEST E NEWS ON MOVIES TV GAMES GIFTS BOOKS | LAST MINUTE ANNIVERSARY BIRTHDAY HOUSE WARMING GIFTS NEAR YOU | LOCAL ARTS CRAFTS SUPPLY STORE | LOCAL HEALTHY HEART DIABETIC RESTAURANTS AND STORES | CHURCH TEMPLE MOSQUE OR PLACE OF WORSHIP NEAR YOU | LOCAL LINKS TO RESTAURANTS AIRPORTS DRUG STORES | DRUG OXY OPIATE ALCOHOL PHYSICAL REHAB | SUICIDE HOTLINE DANIELLE COLBERT PHOTO MUG SHOT | © Untraditional Media

The%20Soulcialists