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 Post subject: How come you don't get an RBI for hitting into a DP?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:51 pm 
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I find this talk about Kelenic comical. He's a 19 year old kid who hit .253 at Kingsport
and struck out once a game and people are talking like he's the second coming. Get real people. When you have a chance to get the best reliever in the game who's only 24 and give up Kelenic in the deal, you MAKE that deal. Stop with the nonsense.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:20 pm 
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It's assumed you drove in the run despite failing...

At least driving in a run via fly-out or ground-out, it cannot be assumed you were not sacrificing for a run. The ground out is not considered a sacrifice grounder since you swung away looking for a hit.

I never understood why a sac fly was not penalized with an at bat, whereas a fielder's choice that drove in a run grounder was....

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jdawginsc wrote:
I never understood why a sac fly was not penalized with an at bat, whereas a fielder's choice that drove in a run grounder was....


A theory with nothing to back it up: perhaps because of fear of the double play. It would be too complicated to determine whether you get an RBI based on whether a runner is on first or whatever, so maybe the argument is that with the sac-fly you aren't potentially making two outs for the sake of the run, while with the groundout you potentially could be if there was a force in play.

That's the best I've got.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:45 pm 
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Because Fernando Tatis would be heading for Coopertown?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:39 am 
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Here's another couple of quirks--

Even though a sacrifice fly does not count as a time at bat, a sac fly is factored into on-base percentage.

And why is no statistical credit given for fly outs that advance a runner to second or third?


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How can a pitcher get a loss for a game if he has no earned runs?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:23 am 
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Chico wrote:
And why is no statistical credit given for fly outs that advance a runner to second or third?


I could be wrong but I seem to remember a time when it did...... MANY MANY moons ago.

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How can a pitcher get a loss for a game if he has no earned runs?


Someone has to get the loss.

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reach on error doesn't help your on base percentage.

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