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 Post subject: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:25 pm 
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Last year, 3 outfielders probably stood alone as guys in their mid-30's who had names well beyond the skills they had left, and salaries well in excess of their abilities as well.

These men are Jason Bay, Vernon Wells and Marlon Byrd. For all intents and purposes, their teams swallowed their remaining salaries and set them all free to latch on as "low risk" pickups elsewhere for 2013, where surely someone would pick them up attempting to find a veteran rediscover his glory when they were likely facing retirement/out of the game otherwise.

Here's how they are faring:

Wells: 95 PA, 147 wRC+
Bay: 56 PA, 110 wRC+
Byrd: 75 PA, 86 wRC+

Plop. Or is it? Perhaps a blessing in disguise, as I expect to update this in a month and find the top 2 regressing to their previous depths but still being allowed to "play through it" as their new teams pretend its just a slump and ignore the fact that the evidence is overwhelming thats the hot 3 weeks is the outlier, not the other way around.

Marlon has spared us this misfortune. His April play is so bad that the guy TC seemed to think was his answer in the 5 hole and ready to regain a glory that quite frankly never existed has pretty much become a short-side platoon guy, and hopefully gone by Memorial Day.

So - thank you Sandy, for choosing the worst of the worst and getting it out of your system now??


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:00 pm 
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I'd rather have Marlon Byrd paid essentially nothing on a one year deal than a two year commitment to Vernon Wells at $6 million per. Moreover, I have zero faith in Vernon Wells being a better player than Marlon Byrd over the next two years, money aside. Then again, I still think that Byrd is going to get a longer leash than he deserves.

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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:27 am 
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northway wrote:
I'd rather have Marlon Byrd paid essentially nothing on a one year deal than a two year commitment to Vernon Wells at $6 million per. Moreover, I have zero faith in Vernon Wells being a better player than Marlon Byrd over the next two years, money aside. Then again, I still think that Byrd is going to get a longer leash than he deserves.


Is that what the Yankees are paying Wells?

That throws the premise of this thread way off. I thought they pulled a GMJ deal for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:34 am 
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northway wrote:
Then again, I still think that Byrd is going to get a longer leash than he deserves.

He hasn't started a game vs a RHP since 4/19. Maybe he sticks on the bench as a short-side platoon player longer than he deserves, but he's already losing significant playing time, thankfully.

MJ: Yanks are basically paying 2/14 for Wells. He really doesn't belong in the Bay/Byrd category.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:46 am 
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Ugh. My bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:48 am 
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Semi on-topic, anyone notice how the other Upton Brother is doing?


8)

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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:59 am 
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R Nitelight wrote:
Semi on-topic, anyone notice how the other Upton Brother is doing?


8)


They should ship him down to AAA to send a message.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:37 am 
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Anyone notice what CarGo is doing? Hope he keeps it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:58 pm 
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thebull wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Semi on-topic, anyone notice how the other Upton Brother is doing?


8)


They should ship him down to AAA to send a message.


You know that's not an option, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:26 pm 
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northway wrote:
thebull wrote:
R Nitelight wrote:
Semi on-topic, anyone notice how the other Upton Brother is doing?


8)


They should ship him down to AAA to send a message.


You know that's not an option, right?


Obviously. It was a joke concerning the Ike Davis panic.


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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:45 pm 
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I think I just need to change this thread to "Guys on the Mariners doing things the Mets could use but oh wait those guys were terrible for the Mets and we thought it great when they were released but nope actually we could really use them right now."

As in: Anyone know where we can get a corner OF who can hit lefties to the tune of a .470 wOBA and 207 wRC+? Oh, in Seattle?

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Also: Anyone know where we can get a dominant LOOGy, with FIP's around 2 against them for the past 2 seasons? Oh, in Seattle too?

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 Post subject: Re: Toxic OF Watch
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:41 pm 
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Ollie had no interest in loogy with the mets if I remember. Sometimes it takes a humbling to make that move

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