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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:33 pm 
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This is so much bull**** it's not funny. He should've gotten 100+ games. And he got some poor urine collector fired/disgraced, too. Braun is total scum.

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:43 pm 
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Braun earning $8.5M this season with Brewers. His suspension is without pay, and will cost him about $3.4M.

Slap on the wrist- team not in contention- came off the dl- banged up.


I think the important thing for MLB is they finally got him to admit he's a lying sos.


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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:50 pm 
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Already some anger in baseball that Braun got only 65 games: "They gave that piece of (expletive) a deal?" one person said.


Considering a suspension for first-time would usually just be 50 games I don't see why 65 games is such a great "deal".


Especially since you actually have to work with the PA to suspend guys who technically don't have failed tests. It's not as if they could impose a suspension without any kind of blowback.


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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:10 pm 
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My bad.

ESPN radio keeps playing his statement when he said he would
"Bet his life" he didn't take anything like that (paraphrasing) which was what he said LAST year.

I thought it was today's statement.

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:12 pm 
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Reyes's bunt and run was SO unfair to Braun in 2011.

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:23 pm 
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Glad to see it. After he got off the hook last year he deserves it

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:45 pm 
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One person broke down Ryan Braun's 65-game suspension thusly: 50 games for violating the Joint Drug Agreement and "a 15-game jerk tax."

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The 15 games in addition were for Braun's treatment of test collector Dino Laurenzi and his disparaging the Joint Drug Agreement publicly.


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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:39 pm 
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"No set timetable for other suspensions, but within next couple of weeks. Expecting 20-25, but includes minor leaguers.

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:48 pm 
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I'm pretty far removed from the anti-steroids camp, but I would've really thrown the book at him on this one.

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:05 pm 
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I've sort of reached a point with all sports where you just have to accept that the athletes are going to use. There's simply little deterrent and the risk is worth the reward.

In the grand scheme of things, what has Braun lost? 3.6 mil in salary? Yeah, that hurts... but he's still getting 117 million dollars over the next 8 years guaranteed. The Brewers are out of it anyway so he gets a two month vacation. A PR hit? Who didn't think he did steroids in the first place? Anyone who followed his story with any detail knew he was guilty as sin and got off on a technicality.

I'm at the point where it's either ignore all sports totally or just have acceptance that some guys are going to use PEDs. I think I've sort of settled into the midpoint of those two axis.

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:50 pm 
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I've sort of reached a point with all sports where you just have to accept that the athletes are going to use. There's simply little deterrent and the risk is worth the reward.

In the grand scheme of things, what has Braun lost? 3.6 mil in salary? Yeah, that hurts... but he's still getting 117 million dollars over the next 8 years guaranteed. The Brewers are out of it anyway so he gets a two month vacation. A PR hit? Who didn't think he did steroids in the first place? Anyone who followed his story with any detail knew he was guilty as sin and got off on a technicality.

I'm at the point where it's either ignore all sports totally or just have acceptance that some guys are going to use PEDs. I think I've sort of settled into the midpoint of those two axis.


I'm fully accepting of the idea that guys are going to use, but guys like Braun and A-Rod piss me off with their indignance in the face of accusations, particularly when they throw regular joes under the bus.

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 Post subject: Re: BIOGENSIS SUSPENSIONS IN ACTION-Braun
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:36 pm 
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