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 Post subject: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:28 am 
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Where did they all go? I've never seen such a huge band of obnxious jackwagons bail out quite like this. Team is threatening to miss the playoffs for only the 2nd time since 1993, I believe (insane) and they are gone. They don't post on message boards, they don't show up to games. They are gone like rats in the night.

No doubt some of these same folks will be sporting Lagares jersies soon enough.

Grateful not to see this much anymore

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:01 pm 
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I'm cool with Yankees fans. I don't consider the bandwagoners to be Yankees fans though.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:07 am 
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Remember when Michael Kay called this year's sweep 'unfathomable'?

I have to imagine this is like the mid-60s, or early 80s when both teams were pretty bad and by that fact it worked in the Mets favor because that other team's bandwagon got super-light in the process.

It also helps the teams are on even par in terms of stadiums for the first time ever. No Bob Sheppard, no aura, no mystique, just one World Series title that seems pretty long forgotten despite being 4 years ago.

You can go back to past seasons, namely last year, when the Yankees were not filling up in playoff games. Did anybody really care? People were defeatist the moment Jeter broke his ankle. The team reached their cost threshold with fans. Nobody is trekking up to the Bronx, especially that $40 parking, just to see **okay** baseball played by a very old club.

I won't go and say the tide is turning and the Mets are on the upswing, heaven knows you can not say that with the Wilpons still owning the team, but after Jeter (who has reached the stubborn old veteran stage of getting nicked up constantly and not having patience to heal) and their mercenaries, who do they have for fans to watch? Cano might be gone. Who then? Even if the Yankees keep him, that contract will probably off-set a lot of the A-Rod money they're free of.


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Prospectus wrote:
I have to imagine this is like the mid-60s, or early 80s when both teams were pretty bad and by that fact it worked in the Mets favor because that other team's bandwagon got super-light in the process.



I can speak for the early 80's and say it began to swing in 1983 when the Mets were a last place team and the Yankees were decent but not very good.

Both the media and NY fans (and for me the kids in my elementary school grades 4-6)began to view the Yankees as the older boring team and the Mets as the exciting young team. I remember a Mets 4-3 loss being talked about more than a Yankees 5-3 win that year because there was always something that a Mookie or Straw or even a Jose Oquendo (a really impressive defensive SS who debuted at 18) did in the game.

By the time Dwight came up in '84 it was clear the Mets had at least evened things up with the Yankees and more than likely passed them.

After adding Kid in '85 it was a wrap.

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:30 pm 
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The New York baseball story in the Sixties pre-69 was that by '65, with Shea opened, it was a tide-turner. Yankees were old, broken-down, taken over by corporate overlords in CBS that really should've not been in the ownership business and Yankee Stadium was still in its original form but more than ready for a face-lift then. Attendance figures showed a shift even as the Mets had no signal yet of an upward trajectory until 1967 with Seaver.

The recent A-Rod game at the new Yankee Stadium looked more alive than any playoff game they had, undoubtedly due to the sideshow, circus spectacle of it all.


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:42 pm 
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Does anyone know of any recent polls taken as to the percentage of the metro area as far as Mets vs Yankees vs Sox?

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:26 pm 
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Are the Sox even a factor anymore? People who come to NY for jobs seemed to adopt them for their outsider status. I'm sure there are Red Sox bars in NY but I really think their whole existence in NY had always been overstated.


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee fans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:34 pm 
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Are the Sox even a factor anymore? People who come to NY for jobs seemed to adopt them for their outsider status. I'm sure there are Red Sox bars in NY but I really think their whole existence in NY had always been overstated.


Pretty significant out on the island and Poughkeepsie and Newburgh up.

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