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 Post subject: Olbermann on reporting as steroid rumors evolved
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:17 pm 
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http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/2013/ ... eserve-it/

Interesting piece by Keith Olberman written in January that I just found. I find this stuff really interesting because I followed baseball probably more in the 80's and 90's and like many people I ignored the whispers about steriods from the Bash Brothers to McGuire's Andro story.

I thought the Bash Brother stuff was BS because as people may remember, pre-internet there where so many rumors about every celebrity that you had to take everything you heard with a grain of salt. Since the WWW allows you to triple check every story/rumor you can usually figure out what to believe or not.

The Andro story had me more "hoping" that the substance was more vitamin-like than an enhancer because while I despised the wacko HR numbers I did enjoy both the newfound popularity of the sport as well as the McGuire vs. Sosa epic race in 1998.

I don't know if I'm in the minority but looking back now I found these pieces of information interesting if not fascinating.

I'm also wondering if anyone could grab the clues and figure out who he's speaking of with:

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It was the day they gave the 1986 A.L. Rookie of the Year award to Canseco (whose moral standing in this mess has gradually gone from last place to about 4th from the top because he alone was utterly, if mercenarily, honest). One of the runners-up told me off-the-record “you do know that Canseco uses those drugs they give to the East German Women Swimmers, right?”

He didn’t even know they were called steroids.



Could be Wally Joyner, Mark Eichhorn, Cory Snyder, Ruben Sierra or Danny Tartabull.

I'd assume It wasn't Sierra only because IIRC his English wasn't good early in his career.


But I'm especially interested in who this may be:

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A pro sports team orthopedist remarked on the sudden devastating, nearly career-ending, bizarre injury to a star baseball player. He said that there were only three ways to accomplish what the guy had done to himself: a hereditary circulatory problem or the repeated injection of anabolic steroids into the same place in the body or a horrific car accident (“By that I mean,” he told me, “having a car dropped on top of you from about 25 feet.”)



He's not specific with the date but it would seem this occurred around '98 or '99. This has me wondering....who had a bizarre injury as a star player around this time?

Could it be Albert Belle? Am I forgetting someone?

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Olbermann on reporting as steroid rumors evolved
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:53 am 
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I was not surprised at all. I remember the brisk little steroid business in my high school in the 80s. Even then, it was evident that certain action stars were heavily into the stuff...Arnold, Stallone, even lesser guys like Corey Haim, etc...

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 Post subject: Re: Olbermann on reporting as steroid rumors evolved
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:25 pm 
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I knew a Division III football coach who talked about players being "on the juice" and that was as early as 1980. And that was with non-scholarship football players with nothing to gain materially and having to pay for stuff without the income of a pro athlete

I also played softball with guys who bulked up during the winter and saw a huge increase in their power. I don't know if they used PEDs, but I can remember our relating the increased power from lifting to what was going on with bulkier big leaguers hitting the ball farther.

That was in the 80s, too, because I still lived in CT and moved in '89.

We also knew all the stuff about hair loss, shrinking testicles, and back acne by then, too

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 Post subject: Re: Olbermann on reporting as steroid rumors evolved
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:25 am 
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Lyle Alzado (before my time), pretty much the poster child for anabolic steroids in the NFL. The guy was a maniac on the field and roid raged off it.

i'm surprised the NFL has really "cleaned" up their sport, or atleast make it so the players can use and not get caught.


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