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Will you consider Ichiro the all-time hit leader?
Yes, professional baseball is professional baseball 13%  13%  [ 1 ]
No, only Major League hits should count 88%  88%  [ 7 ]
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 Post subject: Ichiro's professional hits record
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:57 pm 
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There's a bit of a debate going on whether Ichiro's hit record (he's now one away form tying Pete Rose for most professional hits) is a big deal, no deal or a little deal. Obviously Pete Rose will still be the all time MLB hit leader but if we're talking professional baseball then it's trickier.

I would get the argument about Japan being a lesser league so those hits aren't equal except that Ichiro came here and played at such a high level so clearly his totals in Japan weren't inflated much if at all by being in the Japanese league, it's not like he got 3500 hits in Japan and 700 here; he got almost 3000 hits here and didn't even come to the US until what, his late 20's?

Even if you don't see Ichiro's record as equivalent to Pete's, it's still a tremendous accomplishment.


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 Post subject: Re: Ichiro's professional hits record
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:50 pm 
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There's Major League Baseball.

Everything else is a beer league.


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 Post subject: Re: Ichiro's professional hits record
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:28 pm 
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Since he got more than half of those hits in MLB, I'm fine with it, as long as they break out Warren Moon's asterisk.

Oh, and for the record, I'm in the middle of the poll. If they get most of their hits in MLB, it counts. If a guy gets 4,300 hits in Japan and 3 in USA, that doesn't count.

Oh, and, MLB, hello, is this thing on? I know you want to pretend Pete Rose doesn't exist, but a little bit of a spotlight on this achievement wouldn't kill you guys. Every owner in the game did worse than Pete Rose with the collusion scandal and none of them got banned for life. Hypocrites.

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