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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:43 pm 
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Isn't Tomlinson signed for next season anyway? Or are you guys thinking they'll cut him?


He signed a two year deal but I think they save a bunch of cash if they cut him.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Isn't Tomlinson signed for next season anyway? Or are you guys thinking they'll cut him?


I think Taylor is signed for next season, too, technically.

There's always more to it than the lengths of football contracts; its about the roster bonuses/cash saved if cut and by when.

I don't think Bryan Thomas is a free agent, but they've speculated about him being cut for a while now, since last year. Jenkins too if you don't think he's healthy and/or worth the risk. Vern obviously will be finally cut (surprised if he's in the league next year). I'm probably forgetting people too.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:51 pm 
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The new CBA could change also change how various things like bonuses and guaranteed deals impact the cap.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:11 pm 
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I'm still trying to figure out if I was more upset at game 7 of 2006 NLCS or last night's game. I just hate feeling that the Jets were so close to going to the Super Bowl again and not being able to do it is heartbreaking. On another note, I never thought I could be, but do I feel bad for Jason Taylor. His post game news conference was gut wrenching. Best of luck to him no matter what happens next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:45 pm 
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On another note, I never thought I could be, but do I feel bad for Jason Taylor. His post game news conference was gut wrenching. Best of luck to him no matter what happens next year.


He was pretty horrific all year, and quite honestly, thoughout his career on the biggest stage. 0 career sacks in the postseason. Maybe he could've done something about it instead of crying afterwards.

Good riddance. I understood the signing because we had a need, but he didn't fill that need and he now goes back to being that guy he was to me before we signed him.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
On another note, I never thought I could be, but do I feel bad for Jason Taylor. His post game news conference was gut wrenching. Best of luck to him no matter what happens next year.


He was pretty horrific all year, and quite honestly, thoughout his career on the biggest stage. 0 career sacks in the postseason. Maybe he could've done something about it instead of crying afterwards.

Good riddance. I understood the signing because we had a need, but he didn't fill that need and he now goes back to being that guy he was to me before we signed him.


He won the Steeler game with the safety for the most part. If not, maybe the Jets don't even make the playoffs as their losing streak would have continued. For that play, he was worth every penny that he was paid.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:28 pm 
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On another note, I never thought I could be, but do I feel bad for Jason Taylor. His post game news conference was gut wrenching. Best of luck to him no matter what happens next year.


He was pretty horrific all year, and quite honestly, thoughout his career on the biggest stage. 0 career sacks in the postseason. Maybe he could've done something about it instead of crying afterwards.

Good riddance. I understood the signing because we had a need, but he didn't fill that need and he now goes back to being that guy he was to me before we signed him.


He won the Steeler game with the safety for the most part. If not, maybe the Jets don't even make the playoffs as their losing streak would have continued. For that play, he was worth every penny that he was paid.

Anyone could have made that safety. The Steelers didn't block him... I have no sympathy for Taylor from what I have been told by many people he is a bit of a turd.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
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Yeah, uh, no. He came in unblocked and tackled the immortal Mewelde Moore. If Vern was in the game at that point, he woulda made that play. He was far more harmful with his playing on iceskates and absolute inability to get after the QB at all than he was helpful bc he made one play. Not to mention, they won that game 22-17; let's not make it seem like it was a 1 pt win or something.

Like I said, understood why they signed him. But he couldn't have possibly been more reluctant to come here and now he wants to play the "I love it here" card bc he knows no one else who watches the film will bring him in if the Jets cut him. An all-time "comes up small in a big spot" guy to me. Go retire and wear your teal and orange at home.

Itd be like the Mets signing jimmy rollins next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:36 pm 
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Yeah, uh, no. He came in unblocked and tackled the immortal Mewelde Moore. If Vern was in the game at that point, he woulda made that play. He was far more harmful with his playing on iceskates and absolute inability to get after the QB at all than he was helpful bc he made one play. Not to mention, they won that game 22-17; let's not make it seem like it was a 1 pt win or something.

Like I said, understood why they signed him. But he couldn't have possibly been more reluctant to come here and now he wants to play the "I love it here" card bc he knows no one else who watches the film will bring him in if the Jets cut him. An all-time "comes up small in a big spot" guy to me. Go retire and wear your teal and orange at home.

Itd be like the Mets signing jimmy rollins next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
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Yeah, uh, no. He came in unblocked and tackled the immortal Mewelde Moore. If Vern was in the game at that point, he woulda made that play. He was far more harmful with his playing on iceskates and absolute inability to get after the QB at all than he was helpful bc he made one play. Not to mention, they won that game 22-17; let's not make it seem like it was a 1 pt win or something.

Like I said, understood why they signed him. But he couldn't have possibly been more reluctant to come here and now he wants to play the "I love it here" card bc he knows no one else who watches the film will bring him in if the Jets cut him. An all-time "comes up small in a big spot" guy to me. Go retire and wear your teal and orange at home.

Itd be like the Mets signing jimmy rollins next year.


I agree with most of what you said, MJ, but the safety was very important. No safety and it is 20-17 and the Steelers can kick a field goal instead of turning the ball over on downs. And then who knows what happens in OT.

If Taylor comes back, then cool. If not, Rex will find a replacement of the same caliber or better.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:34 am 
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Taylor was a great pass-rusher, but not anymore. He's 36 and he no longer has the explosiveness he once had.

He can probably stick around for another year as a situational pass rusher on a bad team, but I'm not sure he can do that job anymore either. He just looks done and I think he knows it as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2010 IST
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draft a real pass rusher.

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