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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:15 am 
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The word on the street is offensive scheme and personnel changes. I really doubt there is going to be any real changes beyond that with possible exception to a younger back-up option than Brunell, which will be easy as the man is the same age as George Blanda.

And honestly, can Woody Johnson make another splash QB signing without looking Dan Snyder-lite in the process? I don't even have to mention what move that would be. May Bill Polian immediately put that option to rest.

If that stuff on Holmes is right, I agree on Chico. There also needs to be a search for a wideout option that can grow with the new scheme and offense rather than some flashy FA signing.

The draft as a whole will be very big for the Jets. Do they go for the skilled position wideout or go for the trenches?

Lots of decisions to be made but I think the media will waste a lot of space and hot air on Rex having to change his ways (a big whatever from me, it is only white noise to me when he talks about my team) and that Sanchez needs to be dumped in favor of the Peyton Manning pipe dream because 'Dis iz New Yawk'.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:16 am 
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To update the Holmes situation, reports are that Turner was sent in by position coach Henry Ellard on instruction from Schottenheimer.

Also, unnamed Jets saying Holmes has been pouting ("quitting") for the last 3 or 4 weeks, has acted out before in the season, and has irritated teammates for not working hard in practice.

Bad job by Rex to claim not to know the details, even claiming he didn't know Holmes had been pulled.

That's terrible for a head coach. Say you don't want to comment until you know all the details, since the tipping point was late in the game, but don't play dumb.

It makes you look dumb to volunteer that key guys are coming off the field at a crucial point and you don't even know why.

A bit of irony, the final straw shouting match in the huddle was between Holmes and the great Wayne Hunter.

The way I see this Holmes thing is that they have to get him out of here because he's gone too far away from the program.

It's almost like when the Giants got rid of Shockey, who, as far as I know, never laid down. The similarity is that he became a distraction and he was a detriment to Eli's development.

The Jets are finding out why they were able to get him from the Steelers at a bargain basement price.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:52 am 
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It's almost like when the Giants got rid of Shockey, who, as far as I know, never laid down. The similarity is that he became a distraction and he was a detriment to Eli's development.


The straw that broke the camel's back was the fact the team won in his absence and the whole hullabaloo of him not being on the field but in a suite during the Super Bowl that built to a crescendo of leaked trade rumors during the draft that angered him to push that deal with the Saints to finally come to fruition.

The media was obsessed with making any veteran in a skilled position to be painted as a detriment to Eli's development. They struck first with the gold left by Tiki Barber and that opened the floodgates. I would say once the Burress situation unraveled that it did occur to the media that not every skilled position target of Eli secretly was trying to undermine him which in their absence would result in him magically stepping out as a QB.

But Shockey had a history of acting out, but nothing he did was any more incendiary than his time under the Fassel, and never really matured to a perceived veteran presence so he became a great story of turmoil. Giants had no choice in the matter as Shockey was very hurt by the trade rumors but they also had a Kevin Boss behind him.


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:57 am 
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The Jets have a lot of work ahead of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:09 pm 
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Azmetaholic wrote:
The Jets have a lot of work ahead of them.



The Jets, while being 'entertaining' these last couple years remind me of the businessman with a big dream who took out a loan, promising the bank a quick return with interest.

The notes are piling up for Rex and this team..


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:17 pm 
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3 pm presser called by Mistuh T. Speculate away: Schotty, Holmes, nothing but end of season review? ( but word is that it was added to the set itinerary late)


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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:37 pm 
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3 pm presser called by Mistuh T. Speculate away: Schotty, Holmes, nothing but end of season review? ( but word is that it was added to the set itinerary late)


According to what I've heard, they would take a huge cap hit by cutting Holmes, so I doubt they'll do that without exhausting other possibilities. And then they'll probably try to make it work because of the money and how much talent he has.

I also don't expect much insight, even if they announce staff changes.

Mr. T, after all, is originally from the Parcells/Belichick school and he's a bright guy who is skilled at being evasive. And Rex is the eternal optimist--more likely today that he predicts a berth in the 2013 Super Bowl than he admits that one of his players or coaches sucked this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:26 pm 
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Rex and Mr. T had a press conference. They had nothing of interest to say. I'm really disappointed Schotty wasn't fired on the spotty. Sounds like they are waiting for him to interview for a head coaching job, and will address the situation after that.

They love Mark Sanchez still, but will continue to look to upgrade at each position.

They still view Santonio as a gamebreaking WR and they sounded like he will be back. Rex mouthed off about some leadership garbage and I couldn't really tell what he was talking about. I would plan on him coming back, but they could have been posturing to save his value and actually plan on getting rid of him.

Mr. T was spouting off about the best way to improve is from within. He then goes on to talk about Josh Baker looking good in practice. But, the fans do not see this. Other guys look good too.

My favorite part though was Mr. T talking about evaluations. He was saying that they try to evaluate a player's character "objectively" and then went on to list subjective ways they do this. He went on to say that the Jets had very few fines this year and that they didn't have problems with weight. Mr. T and Rex are looking for "gym rats". He mentioned Victor Cruz somewhere in this babble.

Really really stinks. Schotty should be fired yesterday.

For all my negative feelings, I really do believe this team is close. A smart upgrade here and an upgrade there, and we are back in the playoffs next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:30 pm 
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There is also a report out there that claims Bart Scott will not be back with the Jets next year. He will be due for a raise, and will probably be cut.

He can still hack it in this league and was very good against the run. He struggles in coverage, but I really didn't view him as a problem on our defense. But, such is the NFL. Maybe we will be able to bring him back for less money.

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:27 am 
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Harvey Araton, one of the sharpest sportswriters in NY for a long time, has an insightful essay on Rex and the breakdown of discipline on the Jets.

It's not a hysterical piece and it gives Rex a lot of credit for what he's done, but I don't disagree with any of Araton's points

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/sport ... -jets.html

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:13 am 
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The Jets, while being 'entertaining' these last couple years remind me of the businessman with a big dream who took out a loan, promising the bank a quick return with interest.


You could have just said, "The Jets remind me of the Mets"

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 Post subject: Re: Jets 2011 IST
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Note from Rex Ryan's meeting with team on Monday: He praised players like @Esmitty33, who played final month&half with torn meniscus. #nyj

@Esmitty33 = Eric Smith

So, obviously, Rex's evaluation system is something like "I don't care how you play, as long as you play." Maybe Jim Leonhard would've had a better chance of sticking around next year had he dragged his right leg around while getting burned left and right the last few weeks?

C'mon Rex. The guy was atrocious, has always been atrocious when asked to play as an everydown guy. He's "tough" - great. He's slow, often confused and gets trucked way more than a guy who fancies himself as the poor man's John Lynch should ever be.

If we're gonna praise Eric Smith for playing hurt, how about we also retroactively thank Brett Favre for playing with a bum shoulder down the stretch in 2008?


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