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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Tom Coughlin is a great NFL coach. Think of any time when he really pulled a bonehead in game move, like Garrett pullet on the 4th down yesterday. Really hard to think of any, guy is a really good in-game coach. Sometimes the players don't execute, like the punter against Philly last year, but these are not his mistakes.


That play might have been called on the field. If I had to guess, I'd say they had observed a tendency for the Giants to be a tick slow in getting lined up in similar situations and had a play ready for the QB to call in a short-yardage situation like that if he thought it was there.

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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:52 pm 
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There was interesting article on ESPN where Steve Young and another MVP from the early 80s called their own plays much as Luck does in college right now. They both thought that giving an NFL QB the option to call plays at certain times is the correct thing to do, however, in a situation where your season is on the line, I don't know how as a coach you let your QB make that decision, when the FG and TD would have given your team a 24-21 lead. To me, there is no way a good coach doesn't at least call a TO to discuss that with his QB. And sure, that may take away the surprise but if the Giants were still a little slow to the punch it shouldn't be an issue. That FG could have changed the entire complexion of the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:34 pm 
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Genmet wrote:
Tom Coughlin is a great NFL coach. Think of any time when he really pulled a bonehead in game move, like Garrett pullet on the 4th down yesterday. Really hard to think of any, guy is a really good in-game coach. Sometimes the players don't execute, like the punter against Philly last year, but these are not his mistakes.


That play might have been called on the field. If I had to guess, I'd say they had observed a tendency for the Giants to be a tick slow in getting lined up in similar situations and had a play ready for the QB to call in a short-yardage situation like that if he thought it was there.


It's not the play call, it's the decision to go for it there. Way too early with momentum shifting the Cowboy's way.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:13 pm 
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Romo played well for having that swollen hand. About a 79% completion rate is impressive. Giants D actually stepped up and made plays.

Witten was shut down in both games vs. the Giants. That is really a feat by the defense.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:31 pm 
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Just a thought on the playoffs...If you placed a bet that four of the starting QB's in the playoffs this year would be T.J. Yates, Andy Dalton, Tim Tebow, and Alex Smith you would be rich right now!


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:40 pm 
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Giants D and O have played well, really, but penalties have set us back.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:42 pm 
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This team is peaking. The run game and pass rush have returned and are finally, while coupled with a deadly accurate Eli and man, I wouldn't want to face this team right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:15 pm 
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I think Atlanta was a great draw.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:14 am 
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Third win in a row. This is just insane.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:29 pm 
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Third win in a row. This is just insane.
Three more wins = Super bowl champions


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:03 pm 
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This past week, and the fact that they almost beat Green Bay earlier actually gives me hope that they can beat the Packers.


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 Post subject: Re: Giants IST
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:56 am 
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My prediction of the Giants making a run to at least the NFC title game is look pretty good right now. I think this Green Bay game is a push, really. However, gun to head, I pick the Giants because it always seems teams that get too much rest always seem to falter in the playoffs (see Colts, Indianapolis).

The running game is finally coming around making a potent offense even more dangerous and more importantly, complete, taking pressure off of Eli, and finally, the pass rush is finally healthy. Coughlin lit a rocket under Tuck before the Jets game, and he has played like it ever since, JPP is JPP, and Osi is playing like the strip-master he is capable. Combine that with the DTs getting penetration and Kiwi being able to rush on 3rd downs, and I think Rodgers gets the Brady Treatment ala 2007; he will get hit and get hit often. I think Rodgers, like Brady, is good enough to overcome the pressure, however, I think it throws him off his game just enough to allow the Giants to squeak out a 24-21 win.

Also, the health of Greg Jennings, who has had many weeks to rest now will play a big role against an already banged-up Giants secondary if Aaron Ross cannot go. Webster, who is having perhaps his finest season, will likely cover Jennings, meaning the big mismatch will be Jordy Nelson against Amukamara, who was respectable filling in for Ross, while the Giants' could also use Rolle in the Nickel again. Finally, Boley wasn't healthy last game, allowing Finley to shred the Giants. He has kept Keller, Witten (twice), and Gonzalez under control the past few weeks. Thats 1 HOFer, 1 potential HOFer, and a good TE; he is a huge upgrade over Jacquin Williams, who no offense to him, has been overmatched against the TEs but overall playing well in the Nickel package. While it looks like neither team is healthy, the Pack will still get an edge in the pass offense vs. pass defense.

The Giants running game, meanwhile, had over 100 yards rushing against the Pack, the only game all season where they had 100 yards yet still lost. I think Jacobs will have another big game, with Bradshaw ultimately getting the scores. This will set up the play-action, where Eli is notoriously great in. It is noteworthy in that AJ Hawk did not play last game and while he will surely make an impact, the Giants' line is playing the best it has all year, shredding the number 6 rushing D in Atlanta last week for a season high 172 yards. For these reasons, I think the Giants have real potential to beat not only the Packers, but anyone left in both leagues. This is a Super Bowl contender. They're playing Giants' Football with the addition of a very dangerous pass offense. I would not want to play them, and I would be a nervous opposing fan to face them right now. They're a huge "nobody believed in us" and confidence team, which they have both of right now in a weird sort of way, similar to 2007 when they beat the Giants. Note, I am not comparing the teams only the fact that the 2007 team had confidence after playing with the Pats, while also feeling like no one was giving them a shot. This year's team is in a similar situation. Tomorrow I will do a position-by-position breakdown along with a unit vs. unit break down (i.e. similar to the Pack passing attack vs. Giants passing defense above), so if you're interested for my thoughts be sure to come back tomorrow. I would also be interested to hear opinions on my take from the likes of non-Giants fans (Chico and Genmet, inparticular) and Giants fans (TrueBlue, SHIPDA, run, and anyone else I forgot). Cheers all!


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