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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:54 pm 
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Chico wrote:
Having seen more of the Giants from the Jets game on than I did earlier, I wonder how they ever struggled as they did through the first 14 games.


They started off 6 and 2. I would hardly call it a struggle.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:16 pm 
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Chico wrote:
Having seen more of the Giants from the Jets game on than I did earlier, I wonder how they ever struggled as they did through the first 14 games.


They started off 6 and 2. I would hardly call it a struggle.

I know they beat the Pats, but the middle of the season the ran into the Packers, the Saints, the 49ers ... 1, 2, 3 in the NFC. Pats were the #1 seed in the AFC ... impressive run.

Giants were 5-0 against the AFC East this season.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:16 pm 
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Considering they played the Saints, Packers and 49ers in the regular season, I think they did just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:58 pm 
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Chico wrote:
Having seen more of the Giants from the Jets game on than I did earlier, I wonder how they ever struggled as they did through the first 14 games.

Every Coughlin team goes through a hot start and simmers. Usually it is in December but it decided to come early and thank goodness for that.

The Week 15 Redskins loss is still the most mind-boggling game. I could understand Week 1 on the road but not that.

The Seahawks game, if Cruz held on or they ran the ball it is probably a victory.

49ers game could have been different with Manningham's catch.

Anyway, one of the reasons is offensive line injuries (that made Eli the most pressured QB in the league and our running game very minimal) and patchwork secondary before the season even officially started with Johnson and Thomas out for the year and no Prince Amukamura.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:01 pm 
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Chico wrote:
Having seen more of the Giants from the Jets game on than I did earlier, I wonder how they ever struggled as they did through the first 14 games.


They started off 6 and 2. I would hardly call it a struggle.


Give them all the credit in the world for doing what they did, but if going 1-5 over a 6-week stretch and losing twice to the Redskins, who aren't any good, isn't struggling, I don't know what is.

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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:43 pm 
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Chico wrote:
Steve The Original wrote:
Chico wrote:
Having seen more of the Giants from the Jets game on than I did earlier, I wonder how they ever struggled as they did through the first 14 games.


They started off 6 and 2. I would hardly call it a struggle.


Give them all the credit in the world for doing what they did, but if going 1-5 over a 6-week stretch and losing twice to the Redskins, who aren't any good, isn't struggling, I don't know what is.


But their 1 and 5 included near wins vs the Niners, Packers, and Eagles. Those three games were tight and a play either way could have ended up in victory for the Giants. IIRC, the Packer game was controversial and the Niner game was one of the very few where Eli came close but didn't pull off the comeback. So I really would not use the word struggling to describe the Giants this season.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:11 pm 
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Alright everyone, I'll ask it...Coughlin and Eli or Parcells and Simms? I go Coughlin and Eli only because I think Eli is the better QB, while Coughlin may very well be the equal to Parcells as he built Jacksonville into a contender in just 2 years. However, overall, I still think it is Parcells over Coughlin and Eli over Simms. But man, did anyone ever think that we would be comparing Coughlin and Eli, dead to rights at 7-7, to those two Giants' heavyweights? Amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:40 pm 
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Hilltop wrote:
Alright everyone, I'll ask it...Coughlin and Eli or Parcells and Simms? I go Coughlin and Eli only because I think Eli is the better QB, while Coughlin may very well be the equal to Parcells as he built Jacksonville into a contender in just 2 years. However, overall, I still think it is Parcells over Coughlin and Eli over Simms. But man, did anyone ever think that we would be comparing Coughlin and Eli, dead to rights at 7-7, to those two Giants' heavyweights? Amazing.


Well Coughlin and Eli won 2 and Parcells and Simms won 1. So as a "team," I would give it to the one who just won yesterday. As far as individually, I would rank Parcells over Coughlin only because Bill won 2 Supes and turned around the Jets and the Pats. And Eli would get the nod over Phil.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:33 pm 
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Correct, Steve. Not necessarily as a team but as a tandem.


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 Post subject: Re: The Big Game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:23 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:17 pm 
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The Giants announced Tuesday that further testing revealed a torn ACL for TE Jake Ballard.

Ballard attempted to return to the game, originally believing the injury to be a mere sprain. Travis Beckum also sustained a torn ACL, leaving tight end as a position of need entering the offseason. The recovery timetable is typically eight months, which means the PUP list is a possibility. An exclusive rights free agent, Ballard had solidified the position as a Kevin Boss clone before the late-season knee woes.



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